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Thank you Sedat! I also had a Mercedes EQC 400 (EV). The problem with that car was that the software + phone integration was really bad. Of course living in Tur

Thank you Sedat! I also had a Mercedes EQC 400 (EV). The problem with that car was that the software + phone integration was really bad. Of course living in Turkey also contributes to it, because somehow any brands except the Tesla, don't have the remote capabilities that all the brand provides. But the Mercedes was more comfortable during a drive. The range was worst than the Tesla. I'll probably going to update my card in a few years once other brands have cars with better ranges.

sedatk 3y ago
I think having CarPlay would be sufficient for me in terms of integration. What else did you need? Range is one of the most important factors on the other hand, I agree. There are now competitors on that front such as Lucid Air.
- farslan 3y ago
  Definitely agree. The only thing that comes to my mind, I thought CarPlay is all I need, but as I wrote in my blog post, the ability to watch Netflix, Youtube comes really handy. Of course you could use an iPad for that.
  - jacquesm 3y ago
    > the ability to watch Netflix, Youtube comes really handy. Of course you could use an iPad for that. No, you could use a home for that. Unless you live in your car you shouldn't have the ability to play movies in a vehicle.
    - farslan 3y ago
      Disagree, I specifically talked about some use cases in my blog post.
threeseed 3y ago
> once other brands have cars with better ranges Many of the brands have cars with comparable range when it's honestly measured. DOJ threatened Tesla because of how badly they were over-estimating which is why their website has finally been updated: https://www.theverge.com/2024/1/5/24026367/tesla-lowers-range-estimations-model-x-s-y-mileage-exaggeration https://www.theverge.com/2024/1/5/24026367/tesla-lowers-rang...
- AYBABTME 3y ago
  Despite their exaggerated figures, my real world experience with a Model Y Performance, a Kona EV and an Ioniq 5, the Tesla still has better range, and much better performance. Although the suspension is indeed very stiff, the Ioniq 5 is so smooth in comparison.
  - threeseed 3y ago
    Tesla MYP at least here in Australia is 30% more than an Ioniq 5. At the same price point the difference in range isn't nearly as large as once assumed.
DrBazza 3y ago
I own a 2021 Mercedes, and completely agree about the software+phone integration. It's 2024, why do I have to plug my phone in? And why is the user interface such an absolute cluster**? In fact one of Jeremy Clarkson's (Top Gear, BBC era) running jokes was to ask MB's voice control to do things for him and it never, ever got it right (subject to editing of course). It's still true today. The #1 thing you should be doing in a car is looking at the road. Yet the MB computer and screen demand your attention. And mine doesn't have a touch screen so you're forced to use their controls. In a Mercedes there's at least 3 ways of controlling the central screen, a big dial in centre console, a touch pad in the centre console, and a touch-joystick on the steering wheel. If you're using your phone to navigate and switch to the car radio (there's a physical button for that) or something native to the car, to go back you have to then press the home button (physical), fiddle with the dial or joystick and go 'up' to select Apple Car Play, then spin the wheel or fiddle with the touch pad to re-select the app or display layout, and you absolutely have to look at the screen whilst doing it to get back to Waze or Google Maps. Going from MB 'native' back to 'Your Music App' on your phone is even worse. It's a complete UI disaster. My wife's Ford is half the price, and twice as good as far as the computer and UI are concerned. Frankly I'm astonished that there aren't more car accidents now by people being distracted by their in-car computers and complete lack of good old fashioned manual push-buttons on the dashboard.

sedatk 3y ago

I think having CarPlay would be sufficient for me in terms of integration. What else did you need? Range is one of the most important factors on the other hand, I agree. There are now competitors on that front such as Lucid Air.

farslan 3y ago
Definitely agree. The only thing that comes to my mind, I thought CarPlay is all I need, but as I wrote in my blog post, the ability to watch Netflix, Youtube comes really handy. Of course you could use an iPad for that.
- jacquesm 3y ago
  > the ability to watch Netflix, Youtube comes really handy. Of course you could use an iPad for that. No, you could use a home for that. Unless you live in your car you shouldn't have the ability to play movies in a vehicle.
  - farslan 3y ago
    Disagree, I specifically talked about some use cases in my blog post.

threeseed 3y ago

> once other brands have cars with better ranges Many of the brands have cars with comparable range when it's honestly measured. DOJ threatened Tesla because of how badly they were over-estimating which is why their website has finally been updated: https://www.theverge.com/2024/1/5/24026367/tesla-lowers-range-estimations-model-x-s-y-mileage-exaggeration https://www.theverge.com/2024/1/5/24026367/tesla-lowers-rang...

AYBABTME 3y ago
Despite their exaggerated figures, my real world experience with a Model Y Performance, a Kona EV and an Ioniq 5, the Tesla still has better range, and much better performance. Although the suspension is indeed very stiff, the Ioniq 5 is so smooth in comparison.
- threeseed 3y ago
  Tesla MYP at least here in Australia is 30% more than an Ioniq 5. At the same price point the difference in range isn't nearly as large as once assumed.

DrBazza 3y ago

I own a 2021 Mercedes, and completely agree about the software+phone integration. It's 2024, why do I have to plug my phone in? And why is the user interface such an absolute cluster**? In fact one of Jeremy Clarkson's (Top Gear, BBC era) running jokes was to ask MB's voice control to do things for him and it never, ever got it right (subject to editing of course). It's still true today. The #1 thing you should be doing in a car is looking at the road. Yet the MB computer and screen demand your attention. And mine doesn't have a touch screen so you're forced to use their controls. In a Mercedes there's at least 3 ways of controlling the central screen, a big dial in centre console, a touch pad in the centre console, and a touch-joystick on the steering wheel. If you're using your phone to navigate and switch to the car radio (there's a physical button for that) or something native to the car, to go back you have to then press the home button (physical), fiddle with the dial or joystick and go 'up' to select Apple Car Play, then spin the wheel or fiddle with the touch pad to re-select the app or display layout, and you absolutely have to look at the screen whilst doing it to get back to Waze or Google Maps. Going from MB 'native' back to 'Your Music App' on your phone is even worse. It's a complete UI disaster. My wife's Ford is half the price, and twice as good as far as the computer and UI are concerned. Frankly I'm astonished that there aren't more car accidents now by people being distracted by their in-car computers and complete lack of good old fashioned manual push-buttons on the dashboard.