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"The political difficulty with handling CO2 appropriately is orthogonal to whether it's bad." I think rational-reasonable people, who are usually the most comp
by loceng 3y ago
"The political difficulty with handling CO2 appropriately is orthogonal to whether it's bad."
I think rational-reasonable people, who are usually the most competent and resourceful - aside from industrial complexes with wealth and willingness to do bad in order to achieve regulatory capture to selfishly benefit themselves - will and are landing on that CO2 is an issue to address but how urgent and how close to castrophou we are is the question, but that also then has to be balanced by how harmful could or will the response be to it, e.g. increasing energy costs by adding a CO2 tax will then kill off how many millions around the world, slow how many more millions from getting out of poverty sooner, and how much natural forest environment gets destroyed from people now needing to cut down forests unsustainably because they need a cheap fuel for heating and cooking?
The issue is "armchair" conversations like this, where most people aren't accounting for or factoring everything necessary for a balanced approach - and there seems to be a big ideological divide and vast amount of teaching to happen, whether people are even calm enough to be willing to listen - or if they're fixed and avoidant, succumbing to whatever hysteria and fear mongering propaganda that they may have been misled by (not to claim everything they believe is false).
A bigger threat in my eyes are authoritarians who want to use climate alarmism to manufacture consent to implement further authoritarian-lockdown type policy.
- hansvm 3y agoYou at least acknowledge there's a CO2 problem though, which was my only communication goal. Even if the end result is mostly ignoring it for the time being, I think our efforts will be much better spent if we agree that problem exists and decide to side-step it for rational reasons than if we bury our heads in the sand.
- loceng 3y agoPerfect! Now we just need "everyone" to align on a common understanding of the COVID "pandemic" and the Israel-Palestine "conflict" - so people can be calm enough to find common ground for resolution, rather than blindly believing, being indoctrinated into propaganda - from either side, to see the truth; why free speech is so important, and why it's always the bad actors who want to suppress truth under the guise of so-called "misinformation" being more harmful than a lack of free speech.