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You can call 911 or your local police station and they can verify if there is a law enforcement officer at your front door. I guess someone could run a Stingra

You can call 911 or your local police station and they can verify if there is a law enforcement officer at your front door. I guess someone could run a Stingray and re-route your 911 call to a hostile party but at that point, I don't think a CA would help you given that they are right outside your front door.

harimau777 3y ago
My fear would be that that would piss off the police officer and motivate them to make up some reason to injure me, plant evidence, or destroy my property.
godelski 3y ago
I don't really feel this is an option. And it still is a weak signal. Who knows their local police phone number? Do you know that for the area you're traveling through? 911 is flooded enough. Can I get an image of the officer's face to verify?
- jstarfish 3y ago
  What the hell are you talking about? If there's a stranger at your door claiming to be a cop, and there is cause for suspicion, just fucking call 911. If it's neither safe nor convenient to look up the non-emergency number, it's an emergency. Any armed stranger at your door will only wait so long before forcing escalation. The alternative is: while you're ringing the non-emergency line, he sticks a gun in your face, "arrests" you, and helpfully hangs up the phone. You didn't transmit E911 data-- and nobody will come check on you. If your iPhone is allowed to call 911 over bogus telemetry, it's good faith enough for two humans to use it to verify officer credentials.
  - godelski 3y ago
    What I'm talking about is that you haven't solved the verification problem by calling 911. They likely aren't aware of all dispatched units, especially in your district. Supposing they did, it also doesn't let me know that the person I'm taking to is an officer, but just that there is an officer dispatched. How do I verify that these are the same? The system I want is basically something simple citizens can use and can become common practice. Such as cop shows up and you scan their badge with your phone. Why? Because such procedure can kill police impersonation before it starts. It creates a high level of difficulty to perform that impersonation. Honestly, this should even be possible without an Internet connection. There is also an added benefit for both parties. The scanning of the badge logs an interaction and can make both parties accountable. That's the alternative. The alternative isn't do nothing when I'm literally asking for something else. Get the context of the thread before replying. It's like you're pretending my original cert question doesn't exist.

harimau777 3y ago

My fear would be that that would piss off the police officer and motivate them to make up some reason to injure me, plant evidence, or destroy my property.

godelski 3y ago

I don't really feel this is an option. And it still is a weak signal. Who knows their local police phone number? Do you know that for the area you're traveling through? 911 is flooded enough. Can I get an image of the officer's face to verify?

jstarfish 3y ago
What the hell are you talking about? If there's a stranger at your door claiming to be a cop, and there is cause for suspicion, just fucking call 911. If it's neither safe nor convenient to look up the non-emergency number, it's an emergency. Any armed stranger at your door will only wait so long before forcing escalation. The alternative is: while you're ringing the non-emergency line, he sticks a gun in your face, "arrests" you, and helpfully hangs up the phone. You didn't transmit E911 data-- and nobody will come check on you. If your iPhone is allowed to call 911 over bogus telemetry, it's good faith enough for two humans to use it to verify officer credentials.
- godelski 3y ago
  What I'm talking about is that you haven't solved the verification problem by calling 911. They likely aren't aware of all dispatched units, especially in your district. Supposing they did, it also doesn't let me know that the person I'm taking to is an officer, but just that there is an officer dispatched. How do I verify that these are the same? The system I want is basically something simple citizens can use and can become common practice. Such as cop shows up and you scan their badge with your phone. Why? Because such procedure can kill police impersonation before it starts. It creates a high level of difficulty to perform that impersonation. Honestly, this should even be possible without an Internet connection. There is also an added benefit for both parties. The scanning of the badge logs an interaction and can make both parties accountable. That's the alternative. The alternative isn't do nothing when I'm literally asking for something else. Get the context of the thread before replying. It's like you're pretending my original cert question doesn't exist.