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Nobody deserves anything. That implies some kind of cosmic force or entity that is keeping track of who does what and enforcing some kind of justice. People get
by imgabe 3y ago
Nobody deserves anything. That implies some kind of cosmic force or entity that is keeping track of who does what and enforcing some kind of justice. People get what they figure out how to get and they keep it as long as they figure out how to keep it. Random luck (good or bad) can happen to anyone at any time.
It may not seem "fair" (whatever fair means), but it makes a lot more sense given the data than other explanations.
- nyokodo 3y ago> Nobody deserves anything. That implies some kind of cosmic force or entity that is keeping track of who does what and enforcing some kind of justice. You’re right that it relies on a divine judge which is why there is a moral argument for the existence of God[1]. 1. https://www.peterkreeft.com/topics-more/20_arguments-gods-existence.htm#14 https://www.peterkreeft.com/topics-more/20_arguments-gods-ex...
- noitpmeder 3y agoOr, phrased differently: it's yet another reason why the teachings of modern religion, i.e. some are more deserving than others, is yet another piece of evidence they're a little questionable?
- v-erne 3y agoI do not understand how can anybody take seriously this simplistic dichtomic way of looking at world. It's like the only thing that you learned about abstractions/modeling is boolean logic and now off you go to proving there is supreme being that has properties you want it to have (like caring about you). What if the reality is really only probabilistic? Or just chaos all the way down with some general models only kinda working on top of that but only if you don't look hard enough? Just taking this axiom into considetation : "Either the atheistic view of reality is correct or the "religious" one" - what if we live on a world where its true for some people and not true for others - lest say that some are selected by some random beings and they have "moral obligation" imposed and others were not so lucky and are left to themselves without any judgment waiting.
- broscillator 3y agoThe opposite view also implies some sort of cosmic order, it implies that "deserving" is some type of natural, objective currency and that X work must be performed to achieve it. But that's not how it is, "deserving happiness" or "deserving success" are self-defined thoughts. Did I "deserve" to eat ice cream yesterday? Yes I did, because I decided that I did. You're conflating these abstract concepts with a more scarcity mindset about whether you deserve a specific job or accolades or whatnot. If that's how you narrowly define your own success, then you yourself are deciding that you don't deserve it (assuming you're not realistically working towards that specific goal).
- jxnlco 3y agoi dunno man, pessimists are losers.