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Things I've heard at various points which may or may not still be true: - Votes by direct link don't really count. So you could see a high total but it's not t

by johns 15y ago

Things I've heard at various points which may or may not still be true: - Votes by direct link don't really count. So you could see a high total but it's not the actual value being used for the rank. - Many flags can penalize a post - Voting rings are heavily penalized I'm in favor of all of these things because they prevent the most obvious gaming schemes. Edit: looking at your history (http://news.ycombinator.com/submitted?id=destraynor http://news.ycombinator.com/submitted?id=destraynor) it's clear you only submit your own stuff. No one will argue with people self-submitting stuff here and there, but only submitting your own posts? If the content was worthy, someone would post it and it would get enough votes to rise organically.

zalew 15y ago
> Votes by direct link don't really count. what is a 'vote by direct link' and why?
- destraynor 15y ago
  A vote by direct link is, I think, what happens if you post a link to the comments section of a article (i.e. this type of page) and ask for upvotes.
  - zalew 15y ago
    so, if someone comes from twitter @newsyc20, @newsyc50, etc. the votes don't count? looks like a bug not a feature
    - destraynor 15y ago
      That's my understanding, but I'm not sure.
destraynor 15y ago
Fair enough, thanks John. For what it's worth - I don't have a voting ring of 40/50 people (that I'm aware of :-) ) I don't think the post would have been flagged. I can't control people voting by direct link, as another commenter alluded to, there are twitter accounts with tens of thousands of followers that tweet direct links. Maybe they're accidentally triggering this, which would be unfortunate. Re: me submitting my own posts, it's just a matter of ritual really. I write a post, then publish, tweet, HN, Facebook it all at the same time. I also dislike when others submit my posts with terrible titles like "Marketers, this is a good article" or "Read this post about emails". Thanks for your time John.

by johns 15y ago

zalew 15y ago

> Votes by direct link don't really count. what is a 'vote by direct link' and why?

destraynor 15y ago
A vote by direct link is, I think, what happens if you post a link to the comments section of a article (i.e. this type of page) and ask for upvotes.
- zalew 15y ago
  so, if someone comes from twitter @newsyc20, @newsyc50, etc. the votes don't count? looks like a bug not a feature
  - destraynor 15y ago
    That's my understanding, but I'm not sure.

destraynor 15y ago

Fair enough, thanks John. For what it's worth - I don't have a voting ring of 40/50 people (that I'm aware of :-) ) I don't think the post would have been flagged. I can't control people voting by direct link, as another commenter alluded to, there are twitter accounts with tens of thousands of followers that tweet direct links. Maybe they're accidentally triggering this, which would be unfortunate. Re: me submitting my own posts, it's just a matter of ritual really. I write a post, then publish, tweet, HN, Facebook it all at the same time. I also dislike when others submit my posts with terrible titles like "Marketers, this is a good article" or "Read this post about emails". Thanks for your time John.