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> That's it. We can’t compare the full 1k to 1k km yet because EPA ratings aren’t out - the BYD might as well make 100km more than the Volvo with 75L. > If th

by manmal 3y ago

> That's it. We can’t compare the full 1k to 1k km yet because EPA ratings aren’t out - the BYD might as well make 100km more than the Volvo with 75L. > If they don't, then why buy a PHEV at all? Subsidies + CO2 ratings (important for EU). PHEV is a green washing ploy IMO. Plugging in every day is hard enough as it is, I’ve had a fully electric Ioniq for 3 years. I don’t believe many people will do that for just 36 miles (20 in winter), every day. A big chunk of owners don’t even have the infrastructure to charge daily. With an EV you are also often forced to look for destination charging, but with an PHEV it’s perfectly fine to skip that - and people do.

gambiting 3y ago
>>We can’t compare the full 1k to 1k km yet because EPA ratings aren’t out True >>PHEV is a green washing ploy IMO. Plugging in every day is hard enough as it is So I disagree in the sense that they do work absolutely amazing if your usecase works for what they offer. Our Volvo does 20-30 miles in EV mode, but that covers my driving needs every day, and we have a charging point outside of the house, so plugging it in every day is literally not a problem. In consequence this car just doesn't use any fuel - I drive it every day but fill it up maybe once every 3 months. In fact the main argument for buying it was how much it was going to save us every month on fuel compared to our last car - which turned out true, the savings more than offset the larger finance cost of buying it. But on the other hand, I know someone who owns one living in an apartment in a big city, without any good way to charge it - in that case it's an idiotic thing to own, he's basically lugging around 400kg battery pack, ruining his economy, for no reason at all. >>but with an PHEV it’s perfectly fine to skip that - and people do. Maybe some do - I wouldn't stop at a hotel without charging point, because even though the range is only 20-30 miles in EV mode it makes a really big impact on overal economy.

by manmal 3y ago

gambiting 3y ago

>>We can’t compare the full 1k to 1k km yet because EPA ratings aren’t out True >>PHEV is a green washing ploy IMO. Plugging in every day is hard enough as it is So I disagree in the sense that they do work absolutely amazing if your usecase works for what they offer. Our Volvo does 20-30 miles in EV mode, but that covers my driving needs every day, and we have a charging point outside of the house, so plugging it in every day is literally not a problem. In consequence this car just doesn't use any fuel - I drive it every day but fill it up maybe once every 3 months. In fact the main argument for buying it was how much it was going to save us every month on fuel compared to our last car - which turned out true, the savings more than offset the larger finance cost of buying it. But on the other hand, I know someone who owns one living in an apartment in a big city, without any good way to charge it - in that case it's an idiotic thing to own, he's basically lugging around 400kg battery pack, ruining his economy, for no reason at all. >>but with an PHEV it’s perfectly fine to skip that - and people do. Maybe some do - I wouldn't stop at a hotel without charging point, because even though the range is only 20-30 miles in EV mode it makes a really big impact on overal economy.