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I love how y'all keep trying to make nuclear happen. Then it turns out to cost too many billions and too many decades with too many shitty failure modes and we
by more_corn 3y ago
I love how y'all keep trying to make nuclear happen. Then it turns out to cost too many billions and too many decades with too many shitty failure modes and we enter another quiet cycle of aggressive forgetting.
- acidburnNSA 3y agoPowering a city of a million on a square mile 24/7 with no particulate or carbon emissions and 2+ years of fuel on site is just too darn enticing!
- grecy 3y agoDon't forget it costs $30B and takes 20+ years to build!
- acidburnNSA 3y agoIf you look at the absolute worst case of all time, sure! But why do that? Take a look at how the Koreans are doing building the 4 big APR-1400s in UAE, or how China is pounding out Hualong Ones, and Russia has fully serialized VVER production. Heck, Japan could build ABWRs in 36 months back in the 90s.
- grecy 3y agoAbsolutely, just have to throw out OSHA, take land from people that own it without due process and ignore everything the EPA says. ... in all seriousness, it would be a lot more useful to compare what a developed country has been able to achieve.. even more useful is the country you're talking about. oh look - here you go: https://rogerpielkejr.substack.com/p/how-much-does-it-cost-to-build-a https://rogerpielkejr.substack.com/p/how-much-does-it-cost-t... http://euanmearns.com/how-long-does-it-take-to-build-a-nuclear-power-plant/ http://euanmearns.com/how-long-does-it-take-to-build-a-nucle...
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- exoverito 3y agoMeanwhile the Chinese are rapidly building out their fleet of nuclear reactors because they're an actually practical people.
- pfdietz 3y agoThey're building out wind and solar much faster.
- acidburnNSA 3y agoGreat! Building out low carbon things like wind, solar, hydro, nuclear all help reduce air pollution and CO₂ emissions. What's your point?
- pfdietz 3y agoThat pointing to China as an argument-from-authority favoring nuclear is a bad argument.
- tonyedgecombe 3y agoI wonder how long it will be before they have an incident that stops everything.
- pstuart 3y agoPractical, perhaps. But it doesn't hurt to have the state in control of things and no concept of NIMBYism. Add to that a growth mindset akin to the post-war US.
- ViewTrick1002 3y agoChina is barely building nuclear power plants anymore. China added more wind and solar the past nine months than all of its nuclear reactors under construction will provide. Yes, that includes capacity factor. Which confirms your statement, they are a practical people. They have despite much lower labor costs than in the western world and a dictatorial safety and decision making culture come to the conclusion that renewables will power the vast majority of the grid. https://twitter.com/yo_ean/status/1718633487454904718 https://twitter.com/yo_ean/status/1718633487454904718
- Yoric 3y agoOut of curiosity, what are you talking about? Large parts of Western Europe have been using nuclear energy since the 70s without problem. There will be difficulties, of course: the plants are growing old and drought does affect nuclear energy production.