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My god how I would happily pay 5X per copy for a Windows that had all the shitty new garbage culled out (like ALL the Telemetry and forced updates).

southernplaces7 3y ago
Since pretty much nobody here wants to link to it because blah blah blah. Here's the link for a nice clean edition of Windows 10 LTSC that you can even activate right through the same site. Amusing fearfulness in a "hacker" site. https://massgrave.dev/genuine-installation-media.html https://massgrave.dev/genuine-installation-media.html
- ornornor 3y ago
  Thank you!
Dork1234 3y ago
It is $200-300 per license times 5x. It it worth $1000-$1500 for it?
- CamperBob2 3y ago
  Yes, I'd be fine with that. For better or worse, Windows is a key part of my daily business and life in general, and I don't expect it to be free. I regularly use Windows applications that cost more than $1500 by themselves. If I wanted a free OS, there are other OSes for that, for which I would still have to pay with my time. $1500 for a clean, advertising- and telemetry-free Windows LTSC license would be a bargain... if only they'd ask.
  - LeFantome 3y ago
    If true, I think you can subscribe to LTSC today and get what you want.
    - CamperBob2 3y ago
      Much easier said than done. (I can make a plausible case as an IoT manufacturer, so went that route.)
      - jasomill 3y ago
        The $432/user/year Microsoft 365 E3 subscription[1] covers Windows Enterprise LTSC, has no minimum order quantity, and can be purchased online directly from Microsoft without a volume licensing agreement (by clicking "Try free for one month" on the linked page). Source: my own "enterprise" has two users, a single Microsoft 365 E3 subscription, and no volume licensing agreement. [1] https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/microsoft-365/enterprise/e3 https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/microsoft-365/enterprise/e3 (the "Full Comparison" PDF linked from this page confirms that LTSC is included in this subscription)
        CamperBob2 3y ago
        Interesting, that appears to be brand new (as of December, anyway), and they certainly aren't advertising it widely. Could be worthwhile if you don't mind subscribing to your OS and losing access if anything ever happens to the account. I wonder if what it really means is that LTSC 11 is now enshittified.
ThrowawayB7 3y ago
> "...I would happily pay 5X..." Then sign up for the base level of a MSDN subscription. Get access to any flavor of Windows you want plus their development tools too: https://visualstudio.microsoft.com/vs/pricing-details/ https://visualstudio.microsoft.com/vs/pricing-details/ Unless they've changed something, the OS license keys don't expire even if you let the subscription lapse. Yeah, it's for development use only but, as a home user, they're not going to audit you unless you do something really egregious.

southernplaces7 3y ago

Since pretty much nobody here wants to link to it because blah blah blah. Here's the link for a nice clean edition of Windows 10 LTSC that you can even activate right through the same site. Amusing fearfulness in a "hacker" site. https://massgrave.dev/genuine-installation-media.html https://massgrave.dev/genuine-installation-media.html

ornornor 3y ago
Thank you!

Dork1234 3y ago

It is $200-300 per license times 5x. It it worth $1000-$1500 for it?

CamperBob2 3y ago
Yes, I'd be fine with that. For better or worse, Windows is a key part of my daily business and life in general, and I don't expect it to be free. I regularly use Windows applications that cost more than $1500 by themselves. If I wanted a free OS, there are other OSes for that, for which I would still have to pay with my time. $1500 for a clean, advertising- and telemetry-free Windows LTSC license would be a bargain... if only they'd ask.
- LeFantome 3y ago
  If true, I think you can subscribe to LTSC today and get what you want.
  - CamperBob2 3y ago
    Much easier said than done. (I can make a plausible case as an IoT manufacturer, so went that route.)
    - jasomill 3y ago
      The $432/user/year Microsoft 365 E3 subscription[1] covers Windows Enterprise LTSC, has no minimum order quantity, and can be purchased online directly from Microsoft without a volume licensing agreement (by clicking "Try free for one month" on the linked page). Source: my own "enterprise" has two users, a single Microsoft 365 E3 subscription, and no volume licensing agreement. [1] https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/microsoft-365/enterprise/e3 https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/microsoft-365/enterprise/e3 (the "Full Comparison" PDF linked from this page confirms that LTSC is included in this subscription)
      - CamperBob2 3y ago
        Interesting, that appears to be brand new (as of December, anyway), and they certainly aren't advertising it widely. Could be worthwhile if you don't mind subscribing to your OS and losing access if anything ever happens to the account. I wonder if what it really means is that LTSC 11 is now enshittified.

ThrowawayB7 3y ago

> "...I would happily pay 5X..." Then sign up for the base level of a MSDN subscription. Get access to any flavor of Windows you want plus their development tools too: https://visualstudio.microsoft.com/vs/pricing-details/ https://visualstudio.microsoft.com/vs/pricing-details/ Unless they've changed something, the OS license keys don't expire even if you let the subscription lapse. Yeah, it's for development use only but, as a home user, they're not going to audit you unless you do something really egregious.