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> why not just use Linux full time and get a PS5/Xbox for the AAA games you can't run under Linux A PC with Windows 10 LTSC beats PS5/Xbox in terms in game ava

> why not just use Linux full time and get a PS5/Xbox for the AAA games you can't run under Linux A PC with Windows 10 LTSC beats PS5/Xbox in terms in game availability and backwards compatibility. It also unsurprisingly still beats Linux + Proton in terms of compability. It is still Windows after all. Console gaming is not comparable to PC gaming at this point. Using LTSC over regular W10 affords you a more stable system since you forgo any feature updates from Microsoft (only security updates), a more lightweight and snappier system with less background services running at startup, and reduced (but still present) telemetry. Also, I unironically like the Windows UX over the Linux compositors and countless Desktop Environments that endlessly run into compatability issues and weird bugs. W10 LTSC is comparatively far more stable.

zakki 3y ago
So do you know how to buy W10 LTSC license? Should it via MS Partners? Can we buy it directly from MS?
- toastercat 3y ago
  The only way to get a W10 LTSC license for a single user is through illegitimate channels. If you look on Reddit, you can usually find out how to obtain it. The ISO itself can officially be downloaded from Microsoft servers.
  - wkat4242 3y ago
    If you're on msdn you can also get it
- razakel 3y ago
  There are licence brokers, but they tend to only deal with businesses. You could ask your job to buy it and resell it to you.
nixass 3y ago
Only where Linux beats modern Windows in gaming is when I wanna play some late 90s or early 00s games which don't work anymore on 10 or 11. For some reason they work flawlessly on Wine or PlayOnLinux
ssbash 3y ago
I paid $350 for my Xbox Series X. I then spent another $120 for 1.5 years of Game Pass Ultimate (there’s an arbitrage method to convert an existing Game Pass Core sub). For a casual gamer, like myself, I don’t see a point in spending $1500+ on a PC for diminishing returns in performance and game compatibility. It’s also common for new AAA PC releases to be much worse than their console counterparts. I can cheaply buy used physical games and still have access the vast majority of the Xbox back catalog. 100% of the Xbox One library, 600+ Xbox 360 games, and 90+ Xbox games. The official Xbox Live servers for these older games are still up and maintained. It’s seamless for my non-technical friends and I to get into a COD MW2 lobby. On PC there are only community servers, and the cheaters are way more common. I’m not trying to discourage people from PC gaming (I use my Steamdeck quite a bit too). I think the trade offs only make sense if you spend a significant amount of time gaming, or can get more value out of the PC by using it for productivity.
- toastercat 3y ago
  > I don’t see a point in spending $1500+ on a PC for diminishing returns in performance and game compatibility. You can get a PC that can run modern games for far less than $1500; in fact, slapping a ~$200 GPU into a ~$200 office PC will get you 80% of the way there. > It’s also common for new AAA PC releases to be much worse than their console counterparts. The opposite is far more common from what I can tell (console versions are botched and have performance issues, f.e., Cyberpunk). > I can cheaply buy used physical games and still have access the vast majority of the Xbox back catalog. 100% of the Xbox One library, 600+ Xbox 360 games, and 90+ Xbox games. I can more cheaply buy digital games on Steam, have access to most of the once-Xbox-exclusive games that were inevitably ported to PC by Microsoft, and also play the thousands of PC-exclusive games. I also have access to emulators, and now, Sony is even porting their PlayStation games to PC. Also, Xbox Game Pass works on PC. > The official Xbox Live servers for these older games are still up and maintained. It’s seamless for my non-technical friends and I to get into a COD MW2 lobby. On PC there are only community servers, and the cheaters are way more common. I don't play Call of Duty so don't know much about that, but for most games, you will generally always have more server options and legacy game revival projects on PC. I think the trade off makes sense if you like options. If you just want to play mainstream games like COD, consoles probably make more sense. Frankly, I'm happy that a game I bought on Steam in 2008 still works on my PC in 2024. I'm not happy that I can't play a PS3 game I bought in 2008 on my PS5.

zakki 3y ago

So do you know how to buy W10 LTSC license? Should it via MS Partners? Can we buy it directly from MS?

toastercat 3y ago
The only way to get a W10 LTSC license for a single user is through illegitimate channels. If you look on Reddit, you can usually find out how to obtain it. The ISO itself can officially be downloaded from Microsoft servers.
- wkat4242 3y ago
  If you're on msdn you can also get it
razakel 3y ago
There are licence brokers, but they tend to only deal with businesses. You could ask your job to buy it and resell it to you.

nixass 3y ago

Only where Linux beats modern Windows in gaming is when I wanna play some late 90s or early 00s games which don't work anymore on 10 or 11. For some reason they work flawlessly on Wine or PlayOnLinux

ssbash 3y ago

I paid $350 for my Xbox Series X. I then spent another $120 for 1.5 years of Game Pass Ultimate (there’s an arbitrage method to convert an existing Game Pass Core sub). For a casual gamer, like myself, I don’t see a point in spending $1500+ on a PC for diminishing returns in performance and game compatibility. It’s also common for new AAA PC releases to be much worse than their console counterparts. I can cheaply buy used physical games and still have access the vast majority of the Xbox back catalog. 100% of the Xbox One library, 600+ Xbox 360 games, and 90+ Xbox games. The official Xbox Live servers for these older games are still up and maintained. It’s seamless for my non-technical friends and I to get into a COD MW2 lobby. On PC there are only community servers, and the cheaters are way more common. I’m not trying to discourage people from PC gaming (I use my Steamdeck quite a bit too). I think the trade offs only make sense if you spend a significant amount of time gaming, or can get more value out of the PC by using it for productivity.

toastercat 3y ago
> I don’t see a point in spending $1500+ on a PC for diminishing returns in performance and game compatibility. You can get a PC that can run modern games for far less than $1500; in fact, slapping a ~$200 GPU into a ~$200 office PC will get you 80% of the way there. > It’s also common for new AAA PC releases to be much worse than their console counterparts. The opposite is far more common from what I can tell (console versions are botched and have performance issues, f.e., Cyberpunk). > I can cheaply buy used physical games and still have access the vast majority of the Xbox back catalog. 100% of the Xbox One library, 600+ Xbox 360 games, and 90+ Xbox games. I can more cheaply buy digital games on Steam, have access to most of the once-Xbox-exclusive games that were inevitably ported to PC by Microsoft, and also play the thousands of PC-exclusive games. I also have access to emulators, and now, Sony is even porting their PlayStation games to PC. Also, Xbox Game Pass works on PC. > The official Xbox Live servers for these older games are still up and maintained. It’s seamless for my non-technical friends and I to get into a COD MW2 lobby. On PC there are only community servers, and the cheaters are way more common. I don't play Call of Duty so don't know much about that, but for most games, you will generally always have more server options and legacy game revival projects on PC. I think the trade off makes sense if you like options. If you just want to play mainstream games like COD, consoles probably make more sense. Frankly, I'm happy that a game I bought on Steam in 2008 still works on my PC in 2024. I'm not happy that I can't play a PS3 game I bought in 2008 on my PS5.