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> Grievant had the temerity to do stand-up while on a WFH doctor's note for MS This adds a huge amount of context to this article. A big issue was that he was

> Grievant had the temerity to do stand-up while on a WFH doctor's note for MS This adds a huge amount of context to this article. A big issue was that he was doing comedy, it's that he was doing it on company time. The article mentions things like "raises concerns about the boundaries of remote work" and I was completely confused why they kept bringing up working from home if the article was bout inflammatory jokes. I'll add that I am on Jad's side here, but the full un-biased picture is important.

jacobolus 3y ago
He wasn't doing comedy "on company time". He was working from home during the workday with a note from a doctor (because the stress of the office caused him some medical hardship, as someone with multiple sclerosis), and also on some evenings doing stand-up comedy. Here's a note sent to him by his immediate manager (who was supportive but cut out of the firing decision): > Hey Jad, I just want to give you a heads up that somebody within WHYY is agitating about your stand-up comedy stuff. I have gotten questions from HR – in terms of “How come Jad can do stand up but he can’t work in the office?” And somebody even reached out to Bill [Marrazzo, CEO] [...] I have no idea who that person is – or why they are doing this. So far, I have been able to deflect any inquiries, and I said that your doctor is most worried about stress. I said that being in the office causes you stress, whereas stand-up comedy does not. [...]
- jklinger410 3y ago
  Really, without the HR procedural mix-up, this is a completely valid complaint by the employer. To make a case that coming into an office to work causes you undue stress, but that standing up in front of a bunch of people to do comedy does not, is a big stretch. Seems like an abuse of medical leave, to me.
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ajhurliman 3y ago
If you’ve never been to a comedy show, they’re not usually during working hours.
- scoot 3y ago
  Unless you're a comedian...
Kerb_ 3y ago
The "boundaries of remote work" means more "his coworkers only see him online, so his other online persona might be visible to his coworkers". If his coworkers or business associates find his online stand up, they might not be able to separate it from him because they only know him from online work, not in person. Just about anything that "raises concerns about remote work" simply means one or more pro-office people have used it as an excuse to question remote work. Companies rarely question the boundaries of in person work when firing employees for actions caught while representing the company off hours (driving company vehicle, wearing company uniform).
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Anthony-G 3y ago
I had down-voted your comment but then figured it’s a simple misinterpretation of the quoted sentence so I reversed the downvote. Sibling comments have already clarified the context of the quoted sentence. As I understand it, SAG-AFTRA already has a general concern (not confined to this specific case) about how WFH affects the working conditions of employees: > “Something that the union is kind of concerned about is the way remote work has changed the way we work,” Sleiman said. “We’re always online, on Slack and shit, so when are we off the clock?

jacobolus 3y ago

He wasn't doing comedy "on company time". He was working from home during the workday with a note from a doctor (because the stress of the office caused him some medical hardship, as someone with multiple sclerosis), and also on some evenings doing stand-up comedy. Here's a note sent to him by his immediate manager (who was supportive but cut out of the firing decision): > Hey Jad, I just want to give you a heads up that somebody within WHYY is agitating about your stand-up comedy stuff. I have gotten questions from HR – in terms of “How come Jad can do stand up but he can’t work in the office?” And somebody even reached out to Bill [Marrazzo, CEO] [...] I have no idea who that person is – or why they are doing this. So far, I have been able to deflect any inquiries, and I said that your doctor is most worried about stress. I said that being in the office causes you stress, whereas stand-up comedy does not. [...]

jklinger410 3y ago
Really, without the HR procedural mix-up, this is a completely valid complaint by the employer. To make a case that coming into an office to work causes you undue stress, but that standing up in front of a bunch of people to do comedy does not, is a big stretch. Seems like an abuse of medical leave, to me.
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ajhurliman 3y ago

If you’ve never been to a comedy show, they’re not usually during working hours.

scoot 3y ago
Unless you're a comedian...

Kerb_ 3y ago

The "boundaries of remote work" means more "his coworkers only see him online, so his other online persona might be visible to his coworkers". If his coworkers or business associates find his online stand up, they might not be able to separate it from him because they only know him from online work, not in person. Just about anything that "raises concerns about remote work" simply means one or more pro-office people have used it as an excuse to question remote work. Companies rarely question the boundaries of in person work when firing employees for actions caught while representing the company off hours (driving company vehicle, wearing company uniform).

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Anthony-G 3y ago

I had down-voted your comment but then figured it’s a simple misinterpretation of the quoted sentence so I reversed the downvote. Sibling comments have already clarified the context of the quoted sentence. As I understand it, SAG-AFTRA already has a general concern (not confined to this specific case) about how WFH affects the working conditions of employees: > “Something that the union is kind of concerned about is the way remote work has changed the way we work,” Sleiman said. “We’re always online, on Slack and shit, so when are we off the clock?