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Ya know, I've never had a Linux box that had any of the problems listed about modern windows. Also all the advantages listed about Windows XP are also present i
by swells34 3y ago
Ya know, I've never had a Linux box that had any of the problems listed about modern windows. Also all the advantages listed about Windows XP are also present in Linux... But I've never paid Microsoft for an OS that showed me ads against my will in my Start Menu, so maybe I just don't know what I'm missing.
- plandis 3y agoGood quality Nvidia drivers and support for games, mostly.
- vorticalbox 3y agoI've been running Linux on my work laptop for 6 years now and Nvidia drives are pretty good.
- eddythompson80 3y agoAssuming you don’t use Wayland of course.
- vorticalbox 3y agoNot currently I have enabled it and quickly went back as the DE would crash (running gnome on pop!_os)
- sudohackthenews 3y agoI’m on Fedora 39 and nvidia drivers work great on Wayland (gnome)
- Filligree 3y agoUnless you run Discord, or any Steam game that doesn’t run at you monitor update frequency.
- eddythompson80 3y agoHuh, I’ve had so many problems running Wayland KDE on Arch with nvidia drivers. Maybe I should give gnome another try
- rlmineing_dead 3y agoHi, your issue with nvidia on Wayland is probably Xwayland (see: https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/xorg/xserver/-/merge_requests/967 https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/xorg/xserver/-/merge_requests...) I'd see if https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/xorg-xwayland-explicit-sync-git https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/xorg-xwayland-explicit-sy... and possibly KwinFT works out for you.
- cfn 3y agoI've been running Linux on a workstation for a year and NVIDIA drivers kill it every other update. I'm seriously considering moving it to the server room and getting something else for my desktop.
- coeneedell 3y agoThis problem with Linux is pretty much gone and has been for a couple years now.
- hutzlibu 3y agoSo ... all the windows games now run on Linux? That would be news to me. And I was just recently messing with drivers, kernels etc to get a working result, but in the end I still could not play the (officially supported) game on Linux that I wanted (opposed to just works on windows), so good for you that your problems went away, but please note, that other people might have had other experiences.
- tyfon 3y agoThe vast majority just run out of the box with steam now, often with better performance than windows. Quite a few that use other launchers are "plug and play" installs with lutris (like WoW).
- dijit 3y agoName a game and it probably works on linux these days. My favourite games all do, but I'm already using consoles exclusively for my gaming because I was unhappy being held prisoner.
- hutzlibu 3y agoWell, Total Warhammer 3 for example did not work for me through official Steam, even though it should. It runs on the same computer on windows without problems. And with much more tinkering I surely could get it to run on Linux as well .. but I want to play games to relax and not get and solve new problems.
- blablablerg 3y agoNot all, kernel level anticheat with the big multiplayer games is a problem these days (areweanticheatyet.com), but other than that, most titles work.
- mstokholm 3y agoThis is mostly a non-issue now - I'm playing Baldur's Gate 3, Dota 2, Warcraft III and everything else on Ubuntu 22.04 now thanks to Steam and Proton. Performance is awesome.
- hiq 3y ago> Warcraft III Did you get w3champions (https://www.w3champions.com/ https://www.w3champions.com/) running as well? I had a quick look but it didn't seem that straightforward.
- LtWorf 3y agoMeanwhile valve's own games like portal 2 and team fortress 2 no longer work on linux. Inspires confidence -_-'
- Almondsetat 3y agoWhy are people so obsessed with gaming? It's unbelievable how this industry has gotten so many people hooked, to the point of accepting kernel level monitoring
- dijit 3y agoI solved it by just running a console. People look down on me for it, but the way I see it: my computing experience is not keeping me prisoner; and I value my time too much to dig about certain issues, you're guaranteed to suffer the "my FPS isn't so good I will investigate" or "this game doesn't run so I will investigate" situations. Cheats are less common too, so there's less incentive for kernel anti-cheat, and if there was: it would be contained to my "game computer" anyway.
- ssbash 3y agoYup, after I switched to a console - I was finally able to just play games with my friends and not waste mental energy on fiddling with settings. I don’t have to worry about downloading a game launcher riddled with telemetry or wait 6 months after launch for a PC port to reach a playable state.
- recursive 3y agoI don't think this necessarily represents obsession. It just means they care about gaming at least as much "kernel level monitoring". As a baseline, I don't think there are many people who care much about that. I'm not sure what it is.
- Almondsetat 3y agoTranspose this gaming obsession to other facets of life and see how it goes. Imagine if most cars were modeled after Lamborghinis and people complained about the lack of turbo or carbon seats when hopping on your Honda Civic. Imagine if most parks were modeled after football fields and people complained about the lack of goals and lines in your backyard. Imagine if most knifes were modeled after big damascus blades and people complained about your table knifes when they come for dinner for not being cool and sharp enough
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- tiffanyh 3y ago> "all the advantages listed about Windows XP are also present in Linux" You mean, are present in Linux TODAY. Installing Linux 22-years ago, when XP shipped, was hugely painful and only the most technical would attempt it. Windows XP marked the begin of an era when corporations replaced analog processes with digital. It sounds so foreign now, but in the late 90s - it was still common for corporations to send printed memo to employees as the predominate form of internal communication. So there's a lot of nostalgia for XP, because it was the first OS used by the masses.
- dboreham 3y agoHmm. XP was just one of many NT releases. The first to be marketed into the retail PC segment. Otherwise not really any more or less important than the others. It didn't mean anything as far as the broad landscape of corporate workflow.
- louthy 3y ago> Installing Linux 22-years ago, when XP shipped, was hugely painful and only the most technical would attempt it. That’s still the case with Linux now. I did two recent Linux installs (different distros) and it’s still a nightmare of finding drivers, scripts, etc. to get everything setup. On one of my devices it still doesn’t recognise all the USB ports attached to the motherboard (but does recognise some), I just got tired of trying to discover why. It’s still often the case that BIOS changes are required, etc. Linux is not accessible to the average non-technical user at all. The moment one thing goes wrong, they’re done. Windows is going in the wrong direction for sure, but still when it comes to everything “just working”, it’s hard to beat.
- bongodongobob 3y agoYup. I have two separate playbooks for my laptop and desktop for all the quirky shit that needs to happen to get a working install. Yes, you can get to a usable desktop pretty quickly. But getting everything right is still an hour or better process, post-install, in 2024.
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- bongodongobob 3y agoI'm coming off of an entire weekend spent trying to get acceptable latency for audio recording in Linux. Just a midi controller to play a simple 3x oscillator VST with better than 250ms latency was my test case. I tried different versions of Ubuntu, Debian, different kernels, different window managers, different graphics drivers, stripping things out of the system etc. After going down the rabbit hole, I finally ripped out pulseaudio and replaced with ALSA. In Windows or MacOS I would have been up and running immediately. Now I'm completely burnt out and the creative urge is long gone. Linux is my daily driver and I love it, but my god, some things are still way more fucking difficult than they need to be. It reminds me of screwing around 20 years ago with wifi ndiswrapper stuff or multimonitor xrandr incantations.
- bee_rider 3y agoI hate to be the “halfassed suggestion after you’ve put a bunch of work into a problem” guy, but did you try pipewire?
- akira2501 3y agoI'd recommend jack audio connection kit if that's your use case. You can generally get the best latency performance that your card has to offer, and the jack connection graph is superlative, in my opinion.
- bongodongobob 3y agoThe jumping off point was JACK not working actually. Pulseaudio was the only one that did. Someone mentioned ALSA so I went down that road.
- mahkoh 3y agoYou had audio latency issues and instead of googling "Linux audio latency", you spent several hours installing distributions, kernels, graphics drivers (?), and UIs (??). You could have avoided this by doing what any windows user would have done in your situation. >This article describes how to configure your system for recording, mixing and playing back audio as well as using it to synthesize and generate sounds. Those activities are subsumed under the term professional audio (pro audio) and typically require low latency performance. First link.
- ornornor 3y ago> I've never paid Microsoft for an OS that showed me ads against my will in my Start Menu Sadly, a lot of us have. Most laptops and assembled PCs you buy come bundled with windows and you can’t return it for a refund even if the first thing you do is ripping it out and installing a better FOSS OS. You’ve still paid MS for their dumpster fire of an OS you didn’t even want.