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I think that's a coincidence. What gets me more is that he just selected stuff that's snobbish and "intellectual." It's so strange that people are like this t

I think that's a coincidence. What gets me more is that he just selected stuff that's snobbish and "intellectual." It's so strange that people are like this that they find hard to digest stories about ultra realistic and deep characters in ultra realistic mundane situations to be called "literature." It requires more skill and more intelligence to create an elegantly simple escapist stories about unrealistic situations and characters that speak to a combination of realism and idealism . All of these books can't hold a candle to the MCU up to avengers end game. 10 years of movies with multitudes of artists, story tellers and centuries of technology all coordinated and artfully put together to build a monument of story telling only to be dismissed by snobs for being "stupid". Instead these snobs worship these slice of life books (often with shitty low effort art) about some character overcoming racism or coming to terms with his or her identity/parent/partner/son. These archetypical story types you find in literature are just as formulaic as the escapist stories we see in genres like super hero stories or star wars or lore, etc.. Make no mistake. We all have preferences but the more intelligent genre is the one with more escapism, unrealistic situations with semi realistic characters. Because these stories are harder to pull off, they are harder to make for the big screen. People who don't understand this just aren't getting it.

scott_s 3y ago
The first three comics on this list are fantasy. At least a quarter, maybe closer to half, of the rest of the list are also fantasy.
- corethree 3y ago
  I'm not talking about a dichotomy between fantasy. My comment still applies to that. This is what I'm talking about: "Set in an alternate history Cairo, Shubeik Lubeik/Your Wish Is My Command is a sci-fi character drama built around intricate character portraits set in a ‘post-colonial’ context, wherein we see people from a variety of backgrounds wrestle with life." Like this slice of life, complex character studies where the story is pretty mundane that's so common in lit. The setting can still be sci-fi. Anyway he made a subtle slight against super hero stuff in his intro. My comment was more (though not exclusively) referring to the dichotomy between super hero stuff and other comics. My argument is that it's better then these books he's recommending due to the sheer man power and talent it took to create the MCU. The culmination of work from technology and talent built by thousands of people and he derides it because it's "popular". Like literally what was the point of that intro? To randomly mention how popular super hero stuff is and to dismiss it in all his recommendations. It's the definition of snobbery.
throwitaway1123 3y ago
> All of these books can't hold a candle to the MCU up to avengers end game. 10 years of movies with multitudes of artists, story tellers and centuries of technology all coordinated and artfully put together to build a monument of story telling only to be dismissed by snobs for being "stupid". > Instead these snobs worship these slice of life books This reminds me of a quote from Philip Pullman: "In adult literary fiction, stories are there on sufferance. Other things are felt to be more important: technique, style, literary knowingness… The present-day would-be George Eliots take up their stories as if with a pair of tongs. They’re embarrassed by them. If they could write novels without stories in them, they would. Sometimes they do.".

scott_s 3y ago

The first three comics on this list are fantasy. At least a quarter, maybe closer to half, of the rest of the list are also fantasy.

corethree 3y ago
I'm not talking about a dichotomy between fantasy. My comment still applies to that. This is what I'm talking about: "Set in an alternate history Cairo, Shubeik Lubeik/Your Wish Is My Command is a sci-fi character drama built around intricate character portraits set in a ‘post-colonial’ context, wherein we see people from a variety of backgrounds wrestle with life." Like this slice of life, complex character studies where the story is pretty mundane that's so common in lit. The setting can still be sci-fi. Anyway he made a subtle slight against super hero stuff in his intro. My comment was more (though not exclusively) referring to the dichotomy between super hero stuff and other comics. My argument is that it's better then these books he's recommending due to the sheer man power and talent it took to create the MCU. The culmination of work from technology and talent built by thousands of people and he derides it because it's "popular". Like literally what was the point of that intro? To randomly mention how popular super hero stuff is and to dismiss it in all his recommendations. It's the definition of snobbery.

throwitaway1123 3y ago

> All of these books can't hold a candle to the MCU up to avengers end game. 10 years of movies with multitudes of artists, story tellers and centuries of technology all coordinated and artfully put together to build a monument of story telling only to be dismissed by snobs for being "stupid". > Instead these snobs worship these slice of life books This reminds me of a quote from Philip Pullman: "In adult literary fiction, stories are there on sufferance. Other things are felt to be more important: technique, style, literary knowingness… The present-day would-be George Eliots take up their stories as if with a pair of tongs. They’re embarrassed by them. If they could write novels without stories in them, they would. Sometimes they do.".