3 ms·

This looks really neat! I'd be interested in giving it a try, but doing so would replace existing tools and workflow. As a user, I'm unwilling to do this is I

This looks really neat! I'd be interested in giving it a try, but doing so would replace existing tools and workflow. As a user, I'm unwilling to do this is I can't both own my data and application hosting. If Nino doesn't pan out and the product gets shut down, how do I continue to access my now (trigger warning, words used to describe as I understand, not critique) tightly coupled proprietary data? Can I self host? Is source code available? Are document formats open? How do I not get screwed as an enthusiastic adopter in the unhappy case that things don't work out? If I put my data in and the product isn't working for me, how do I get my data out?

harrisonlo 3y ago
Thanks. I think the concern about software provider shutting down is valid. Heck, I still remember being pissed when Google deprecated two products I used within a month (a few months back). Self-hosting might be too complex to setup, but do you think single tenant offering helps? I don't know if it makes sense for individuals tho. In addition to HTML & CSV, there is an option to export JSON, which supports more formats. In a way, it is an open format (.json) but I'll have to add relevant documentation. PDF support will also come at one point.
- buildbuildbuild 3y ago
  Self-hosting is key for us as well. Companies working with sensitive data really value "on-device" / "on-premises" architecture, which it looks like you're close to nailing. Check out Bitwarden and Gitlab's self-hosting approaches, and congrats on the launch. I'm excited to try it. And regarding self-hosting complexity, start with a "docker-compose up" example and iterate from there.
bertil 3y ago
One great solution for that would be the approach many advanced Markdown editors like Obsidian have: the documents remain usable. You might lose some benefits (the integration between documents in a graph-like structure) that are specific to the tool. Still, your work is preserved in a universal format that anyone can leverage. Most elements of Nano have widely accepted standards, presumably easy to integrate, so that guarantee should be doable.
- eviks 3y ago
  It's not a universal format since a lot of data is for only for Obsidian plugins that can work work it, and it isn't universally extensible, so not suitable for proper tools this aims to be

harrisonlo 3y ago

Thanks. I think the concern about software provider shutting down is valid. Heck, I still remember being pissed when Google deprecated two products I used within a month (a few months back). Self-hosting might be too complex to setup, but do you think single tenant offering helps? I don't know if it makes sense for individuals tho. In addition to HTML & CSV, there is an option to export JSON, which supports more formats. In a way, it is an open format (.json) but I'll have to add relevant documentation. PDF support will also come at one point.

buildbuildbuild 3y ago
Self-hosting is key for us as well. Companies working with sensitive data really value "on-device" / "on-premises" architecture, which it looks like you're close to nailing. Check out Bitwarden and Gitlab's self-hosting approaches, and congrats on the launch. I'm excited to try it. And regarding self-hosting complexity, start with a "docker-compose up" example and iterate from there.

bertil 3y ago

One great solution for that would be the approach many advanced Markdown editors like Obsidian have: the documents remain usable. You might lose some benefits (the integration between documents in a graph-like structure) that are specific to the tool. Still, your work is preserved in a universal format that anyone can leverage. Most elements of Nano have widely accepted standards, presumably easy to integrate, so that guarantee should be doable.

eviks 3y ago
It's not a universal format since a lot of data is for only for Obsidian plugins that can work work it, and it isn't universally extensible, so not suitable for proper tools this aims to be