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Yes. Some of us like to imagine trans* people as those drag like personas, a clownish caricatures of their genders. This isn't the case though: most are just, y
by snotrockets 3y ago
Yes. Some of us like to imagine trans* people as those drag like personas, a clownish caricatures of their genders. This isn't the case though: most are just, you know, people. You wouldn't know they are trans*, except for their name. And unlike that Johnny Cash song, being a boy named Sue doesn't build character. It just makes your life miserable.
- nilespotter 3y ago[flagged]
- sokoloff 3y agoImagine there’s a chance that you might be wrong. How would you possibly know the false negatives (the ones you “missed”)?
- nilespotter 3y agoGood point, I guess they could also be Men In Black aliens too and I wouldn’t know that either.
- gruez 3y agoThat doesn't answer the question. How are you so sure that you're not missing out on any? It's not like at the end of the year you get a report of all the trans people that you missed.
- snotrockets 3y agotrans* people aren't crossdressers, and no, you wouldn't. Pick a random thirst-trap influencer: on almost every post on their TikTok or Insta you'd see multiple comments suggesting they are trans. Simply, there isn't a way to tell because as there is no biological marker that is a binary, as much as some would like to believe otherwise. Sex is a bimodal distribution, and as such there are people, cis and trans, that don't look like the gender you'd imagine them to be.
- camdenlock 3y agoSex is not bimodal, it’s binary. We as a society have to be able to just get past this. I, for example, am a male (sex) - but I identify as a woman (gender identity). These two things can be true at the same time, and do not conflict.
- snotrockets 3y agoBiological sex markers are bimodal. Just ask the nearest health researcher: there isn't a single one that is strictly male or female.
- camdenlock 3y agoThat’s fine, but sex itself is still a binary concept and is very well defined, and is not controversial. For example, my sex is “0” (and not “1”) because my body is capable of producing “0”-style gametes, not “1”-style gametes (feel free to substitute the usual names for each sex, but you get the point).
- snotrockets 3y agoOne of your sexes, perhaps: there isn't a single marker for sex (and some of those we like to think of such markers aren't binary, but we can drop those for this exercise)
- camdenlock 3y ago“Markers” are irrelevant. Either your body is capable of producing male gametes or it’s capable of producing female ones.
- ceejayoz 3y agoThat's just trivial to debunk. Infertile people may produce neither. Less trivial: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/46,XX/46,XY https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/46,XX/46,XY https://academic.oup.com/bjs/article-abstract/69/5/279/6185759?redirectedFrom=fulltext&login=false https://academic.oup.com/bjs/article-abstract/69/5/279/61857... "Ovulation in a cytogenetically proved phenotypically male fertile hermaphrodite" Ovotesticular syndrome: https://rarediseases.org/rare-diseases/ovotesticular-disorder-of-sex-development/ https://rarediseases.org/rare-diseases/ovotesticular-disorde...
- MissTake 3y agoBullcrap you can. Once my hormones kicked in I was able to blend in so well that some of my friends didn’t believe me when I said I was trans. And I got that confirmed from a third party who is honest beyond a fault. And there’s a world of difference between crisscrossing and being transgendered.
- nilespotter 3y ago[flagged]
- MissTake 3y ago[flagged]
- dang 3y agoThis comment and https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38903037 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38903037 go beyond just posting about a controversial topic and cross into attack, name-calling, and slur. We ban accounts that post such things, so please don't do it again. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
- nilespotter 3y ago[flagged]
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