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> Is this a serious issue? A bigoted store clerk might decide to apply different standards to trans people, to find a way to kick them out of the store. So yea

• sokoloff 3y ago
  True, but does having another name on the credit card actually address this genuine problem? (I think people should be able to use their chosen name on their credit card; I think that adds comfort to their regular interactions and daily life; I just don’t think it will act as an Uno Reverse card against someone prone to bigotry against them.)
  • snotrockets 3y ago
    Yes. Some of us like to imagine trans* people as those drag like personas, a clownish caricatures of their genders. This isn't the case though: most are just, you know, people. You wouldn't know they are trans*, except for their name. And unlike that Johnny Cash song, being a boy named Sue doesn't build character. It just makes your life miserable.
    • nilespotter 3y ago
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      • sokoloff 3y ago
        Imagine there’s a chance that you might be wrong. How would you possibly know the false negatives (the ones you “missed”)?
        • nilespotter 3y ago
          Good point, I guess they could also be Men In Black aliens too and I wouldn’t know that either.
          • gruez 3y ago
            That doesn't answer the question. How are you so sure that you're not missing out on any? It's not like at the end of the year you get a report of all the trans people that you missed.
      • snotrockets 3y ago
        trans* people aren't crossdressers, and no, you wouldn't. Pick a random thirst-trap influencer: on almost every post on their TikTok or Insta you'd see multiple comments suggesting they are trans. Simply, there isn't a way to tell because as there is no biological marker that is a binary, as much as some would like to believe otherwise. Sex is a bimodal distribution, and as such there are people, cis and trans, that don't look like the gender you'd imagine them to be.
        • camdenlock 3y ago
          Sex is not bimodal, it’s binary. We as a society have to be able to just get past this. I, for example, am a male (sex) - but I identify as a woman (gender identity). These two things can be true at the same time, and do not conflict.
          • snotrockets 3y ago
            Biological sex markers are bimodal. Just ask the nearest health researcher: there isn't a single one that is strictly male or female.
            • camdenlock 3y ago
              That’s fine, but sex itself is still a binary concept and is very well defined, and is not controversial. For example, my sex is “0” (and not “1”) because my body is capable of producing “0”-style gametes, not “1”-style gametes (feel free to substitute the usual names for each sex, but you get the point).
              • snotrockets 3y ago
                One of your sexes, perhaps: there isn't a single marker for sex (and some of those we like to think of such markers aren't binary, but we can drop those for this exercise)
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      • MissTake 3y ago
        Bullcrap you can. Once my hormones kicked in I was able to blend in so well that some of my friends didn’t believe me when I said I was trans. And I got that confirmed from a third party who is honest beyond a fault. And there’s a world of difference between crisscrossing and being transgendered.
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      • dang 3y ago
        This comment and https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38903037 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38903037 go beyond just posting about a controversial topic and cross into attack, name-calling, and slur. We ban accounts that post such things, so please don't do it again. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
        • nilespotter 3y ago
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