> What are the goal posts here? I'm going off the initial comment of providing literally every single person that wants it a job so that they're able to afford

> What are the goal posts here? I'm going off the initial comment of providing literally every single person that wants it a job so that they're able to afford to live. Yes, so are for it or against it? I can't tell. Arguments like this: > Not doing negative work isn't an option here. How will you handle people that nobody literally wants to work with? Are matched with arguments like this: > If we're ok with the goal posts being 99.9% than yeah sure things such as WPA [1] or CETA [2] are great. 99.9% would be a really great result. I don't believe you can actually have a solution which covers exactly 100% percent of people. People "who can't be worked with" in machining shop can be worked with for example in cleaning services. My wife manages such people. It's very hard and a lot of drama and missed spots and occasional non-showings but everyone who actually wants to work earns enough money to provide for himself. This is subsidized by Polish government, because most of those people have some form of disability which prevents them from holding "normal" jobs. And cleaning is a little cheaper. It's still better than just giving them money for sitting on their ass all day watching tv.