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>Couple that with ever widening definitions of racist, sexist, whatever and you have an atmosphere where you’re always at work, which is a place you can say les

by wredue 3y ago

>Couple that with ever widening definitions of racist, sexist, whatever and you have an atmosphere where you’re always at work, which is a place you can say less and less I don’t agree with a company firing you for having a side job, nor do I currently believe that this guys jokes are coming from an actual place of racism, but it’s pretty clear from the arbitrators statement that they’re one of “those” people. The definitions of racism and sexism are not expanding.

mschuster91 3y ago
> The definitions of racism and sexism are not expanding. Half-agree. Society at large's tolerance for racism and sexism has gone way down, particularly among young people, which is what most "older" people experience as "expanding definitions" - the 1945-born generations for example grew up in a time where it was completely normal to openly discriminate against Black people [1] or women [2], so they see that change as a threat to how they grew up, they see the criticism from young people as a direct offense against them. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rosa_Parks#Parks_arrest_and_bus_boycott https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rosa_Parks#Parks_arrest_and_bu... [2] https://www.forbes.com/advisor/banking/when-could-women-open-a-bank-account/ https://www.forbes.com/advisor/banking/when-could-women-open...
- wredue 3y ago
  Okay. But the tolerance of sexism and racism shrinking doesn’t “expand their definitions”, unless you’re a snowflake.
  - mschuster91 3y ago
    That depends on your point of view, that was my entire point. For your average 80 year old, in their experience the definitions have expanded because stuff that wasn't even considered racist, sexist or otherwise discriminatory back when they grew up can go as far as land you in prison these days (say, groping your secretary's butt when she comes by your desk).
stevehawk 3y ago
maybe the textbook definition hasn't changed, but the interpretation (and application of said interpretations) certainly have in the United States. Especially since the hijacking of "being woke" by white people.

by wredue 3y ago

mschuster91 3y ago

> The definitions of racism and sexism are not expanding. Half-agree. Society at large's tolerance for racism and sexism has gone way down, particularly among young people, which is what most "older" people experience as "expanding definitions" - the 1945-born generations for example grew up in a time where it was completely normal to openly discriminate against Black people [1] or women [2], so they see that change as a threat to how they grew up, they see the criticism from young people as a direct offense against them. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rosa_Parks#Parks_arrest_and_bus_boycott https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rosa_Parks#Parks_arrest_and_bu... [2] https://www.forbes.com/advisor/banking/when-could-women-open-a-bank-account/ https://www.forbes.com/advisor/banking/when-could-women-open...

wredue 3y ago
Okay. But the tolerance of sexism and racism shrinking doesn’t “expand their definitions”, unless you’re a snowflake.
- mschuster91 3y ago
  That depends on your point of view, that was my entire point. For your average 80 year old, in their experience the definitions have expanded because stuff that wasn't even considered racist, sexist or otherwise discriminatory back when they grew up can go as far as land you in prison these days (say, groping your secretary's butt when she comes by your desk).

stevehawk 3y ago

maybe the textbook definition hasn't changed, but the interpretation (and application of said interpretations) certainly have in the United States. Especially since the hijacking of "being woke" by white people.