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This attitude is the reason why I now dread filling out any random web form, because a poorly implemented crappy JavaScript ”flow” will take over my browser, br

by t8sr 3y ago

This attitude is the reason why I now dread filling out any random web form, because a poorly implemented crappy JavaScript ”flow” will take over my browser, break the back button, accessibility and autofill features and randomly fail and start over in step 6 out of 19. It’s the reason why a simple web form requires 100 MB of bandwidth to deal with. People working from a train or on data roaming are not a fringe case. They have amounts of bandwidth that, 20 years ago, were enough to serve any complex web experience. It’s not acceptable that we now require more data than is contained in all the books in the library of congress to buy a ticket on Ticketmaster. I can’t understand how someone looks at the ratio of useful action to code size, sees it’s something like 1:1e6, and thinks this is fine. The modern web’s usability, efficiency and reliability are terrible, and worse each year. Defending the tech stack that led to this with “it’s a good UX” is both wrong and makes me feel like web devs live on another planet from the rest of us.

Aurornis 3y ago
> It’s the reason why a simple web form requires 100 MB of bandwidth to deal with. I have a hard time taking these arguments seriously because they get so exaggerated on HN. I’ve done a lot of work from flights and extremely low bandwidth, high latency connections in foreign hotels. Not once have I encountered anything like a web form taking 100MB.
- t8sr 3y ago
  Two weeks ago, I let my partner use my data roaming to submit two forms on some Adobe collaboration thing, reply to a chat message on Teams and send an email. The counter on my phone said these actions used about 500 MB of bandwidth in the space of about 20 minutes. I agree it sounds exaggerated, but I don’t think it is. This is kind of my point, it’s past the point you would think likely.

by t8sr 3y ago

Aurornis 3y ago

> It’s the reason why a simple web form requires 100 MB of bandwidth to deal with. I have a hard time taking these arguments seriously because they get so exaggerated on HN. I’ve done a lot of work from flights and extremely low bandwidth, high latency connections in foreign hotels. Not once have I encountered anything like a web form taking 100MB.

t8sr 3y ago
Two weeks ago, I let my partner use my data roaming to submit two forms on some Adobe collaboration thing, reply to a chat message on Teams and send an email. The counter on my phone said these actions used about 500 MB of bandwidth in the space of about 20 minutes. I agree it sounds exaggerated, but I don’t think it is. This is kind of my point, it’s past the point you would think likely.