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That hasn't been the case with the very limited trials of UBI in other countries, so what makes you think that? Surely the biggest trap that prevents people fr

That hasn't been the case with the very limited trials of UBI in other countries, so what makes you think that? Surely the biggest trap that prevents people from seeking work is poverty. You can hardly even apply for most jobs if you have no fixed abode and no access to bathing facilities or clean clothes.

lupusreal 3y ago
Poverty is a strong motivation to seek work. The forces working against this which prevent people from finding work are mostly depression and feelings of helplessness. When people hit their rock bottom (which is generally weeks to days before homelessness) they're faced with a choice to either bounce off it and turn their life around, or to die (e.g. the streets.) Many people choose death because the alternative seems too hard for them, they're scared of what it will take and think that trying to turn around will just prolong their suffering so they choose the "easy" way out and give up on life. UBI might keep people alive but I don't believe it's a path to recovery. It'll keep people suspended right above rock bottom, not working and on drugs and booze, permanently depressed with no future ahead of them. The longer somebody stays like this, the worse off they become mentally and physically. Enabling people like this is very cruel. More beneficial reform involves removing the friction and barriers to recovery. Make it easier for people to find work that they can cope with and grow with. Make it easier for people to get back into the cycle of fixing their own problems by removing all the bureaucratic roadblocks that make getting back to work seem like a daunting impossibility. Anything that makes it easier to work is good, anything that makes it easier to not work (including UBI) is bad. And its not all about removing bureaucracy; building out better public transit so people feel that it's easy to get themselves to a job is very important. Government initiatives that reduce the availability of used cars or raise the price of new cars (same thing) should also be eliminated. More bike lanes should be built between residential and industrial/commercial areas and ebikes should be permitted on these routes. The penalties of traffic violations should be made progressive so that rich people have to pay however much is enough to make them regret it. Across the board, the stress of transportation should be reduced to make it easier for people to turn their lives around. The stress of finding entry level jobs should be reduced, but not the importance of working because getting people back to work is how you get them on a path of recovery and growth.

lupusreal 3y ago

Poverty is a strong motivation to seek work. The forces working against this which prevent people from finding work are mostly depression and feelings of helplessness. When people hit their rock bottom (which is generally weeks to days before homelessness) they're faced with a choice to either bounce off it and turn their life around, or to die (e.g. the streets.) Many people choose death because the alternative seems too hard for them, they're scared of what it will take and think that trying to turn around will just prolong their suffering so they choose the "easy" way out and give up on life. UBI might keep people alive but I don't believe it's a path to recovery. It'll keep people suspended right above rock bottom, not working and on drugs and booze, permanently depressed with no future ahead of them. The longer somebody stays like this, the worse off they become mentally and physically. Enabling people like this is very cruel. More beneficial reform involves removing the friction and barriers to recovery. Make it easier for people to find work that they can cope with and grow with. Make it easier for people to get back into the cycle of fixing their own problems by removing all the bureaucratic roadblocks that make getting back to work seem like a daunting impossibility. Anything that makes it easier to work is good, anything that makes it easier to not work (including UBI) is bad. And its not all about removing bureaucracy; building out better public transit so people feel that it's easy to get themselves to a job is very important. Government initiatives that reduce the availability of used cars or raise the price of new cars (same thing) should also be eliminated. More bike lanes should be built between residential and industrial/commercial areas and ebikes should be permitted on these routes. The penalties of traffic violations should be made progressive so that rich people have to pay however much is enough to make them regret it. Across the board, the stress of transportation should be reduced to make it easier for people to turn their lives around. The stress of finding entry level jobs should be reduced, but not the importance of working because getting people back to work is how you get them on a path of recovery and growth.