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I love Microsoft hardware and I have been using their peripherals since the late 80s. Logitech is also very good, but never had quite the reliability and simpli

I love Microsoft hardware and I have been using their peripherals since the late 80s. Logitech is also very good, but never had quite the reliability and simplicity combined with innovation of Microsoft's hardware products.

thefz 3y ago
Same. Nothing but positive experiences, still rocking my ergo.
- LegitShady 3y ago
  almost every logitech product I've bought in the last 6 years has failed early and while their warranty is honored, having to go through it for basically every item is very frustrating compared to just not having the issues with mouse and keyboard switches. I think their products are priced on the assumption they have to send you a replacement because the failure rates are so high. Still looking for good replacements for everything.
  - user_7832 3y ago
    I’m not sure if you’ve also needed up with bad logitech mice but apparently that’s not poor build quality but rather logi choosing to use a reduced voltage, preventing the sensor contacts from properly getting “wetted” leading to eventual rust/oxidation build up. Sandpaper ought to fix it in theory. Still sucks though, not defending logi for the weird decision.
    - LegitShady 3y ago
      ya I understand I could get new switches or somehow fix these, but its one of those 'even if they honor the warranty, how many times am I interested in dealing with poorly designed and failing peripherals'. The first time you replace something under warranty you feel good because wow they honored the warranty. The 6th time you realize the products themselves have design flaws and being replaced under warranty is just hassle my life doesn't need, especially at the prices logitech charges for their products. My last remaining logitech product is a g603 I bought for $30 at costco and it will likely be my last logitech product until they can demonstrate they're not building things to fail early anymore.
  - pohuing 3y ago
    Tbh I've started seeing their terrible mouse switches as a bonus. It means I get a free replacement every 12-20 months.
    - LegitShady 3y ago
      I'd rather just have one that works and no hassle of RMAs.
taskforcegemini 3y ago
Logitech does not qualify for "very good". maybe for "good enough"
- infotainment 3y ago
  Logitech’s product line is completely bifurcated into their horrible products and good products — there’s no in between. For example, most of their consumer-focused Bluetooth peripherals are great (such as the K380 keyboard).
  - jerlam 3y ago
    Seconding this. I've been using a Logitech gaming mouse for several years full time without problems (other than the software), and then I bought one of Logitech's consumer line, a Marathon with a super-long battery life. I thought it was broken - the mouse turns the sensor off if you stop using it for a few seconds, leading to noticeable delays when you start using it again. And the polling rate is so low that it seems to skip some movements, like the old mice with the physical ball you had to clean. I also had one of the first Logitech "Laser" mice which was unable to track consistently on any surface, worse than the optical mice it was supposed to replace.
- MikusR 3y ago
  Both Microsoft and Logitech mice are crap quality. Unfortunately everybody else is much much worse.
  - xoac 3y ago
    This is one of those cheap "everything is bad" takes. I recently had two mice: a logitech g pro which was great, and now a logitech mx vertical which was also great.
    - pi-e-sigma 3y ago
      This is one of those cheap 'everything is fine' takes. I recently also bought a logitech mouse and it's as shitty as shittiest no-name Chinese mice.
oldgradstudent 3y ago
My first mouse was a Microsoft Mouse bought around 1987. It continued working for many years and I've only stopped using it because screen resolutions increased too much for it to handle. https://deskthority.net/wiki/Microsoft_mouse_(3rd_gen) https://deskthority.net/wiki/Microsoft_mouse_(3rd_gen) There is something about the way the buttons and scroll wheels feel that no other manufacturer could match. Not even Logitech.

thefz 3y ago

Same. Nothing but positive experiences, still rocking my ergo.

LegitShady 3y ago
almost every logitech product I've bought in the last 6 years has failed early and while their warranty is honored, having to go through it for basically every item is very frustrating compared to just not having the issues with mouse and keyboard switches. I think their products are priced on the assumption they have to send you a replacement because the failure rates are so high. Still looking for good replacements for everything.
- user_7832 3y ago
  I’m not sure if you’ve also needed up with bad logitech mice but apparently that’s not poor build quality but rather logi choosing to use a reduced voltage, preventing the sensor contacts from properly getting “wetted” leading to eventual rust/oxidation build up. Sandpaper ought to fix it in theory. Still sucks though, not defending logi for the weird decision.
  - LegitShady 3y ago
    ya I understand I could get new switches or somehow fix these, but its one of those 'even if they honor the warranty, how many times am I interested in dealing with poorly designed and failing peripherals'. The first time you replace something under warranty you feel good because wow they honored the warranty. The 6th time you realize the products themselves have design flaws and being replaced under warranty is just hassle my life doesn't need, especially at the prices logitech charges for their products. My last remaining logitech product is a g603 I bought for $30 at costco and it will likely be my last logitech product until they can demonstrate they're not building things to fail early anymore.
- pohuing 3y ago
  Tbh I've started seeing their terrible mouse switches as a bonus. It means I get a free replacement every 12-20 months.
  - LegitShady 3y ago
    I'd rather just have one that works and no hassle of RMAs.

taskforcegemini 3y ago

Logitech does not qualify for "very good". maybe for "good enough"

infotainment 3y ago
Logitech’s product line is completely bifurcated into their horrible products and good products — there’s no in between. For example, most of their consumer-focused Bluetooth peripherals are great (such as the K380 keyboard).
- jerlam 3y ago
  Seconding this. I've been using a Logitech gaming mouse for several years full time without problems (other than the software), and then I bought one of Logitech's consumer line, a Marathon with a super-long battery life. I thought it was broken - the mouse turns the sensor off if you stop using it for a few seconds, leading to noticeable delays when you start using it again. And the polling rate is so low that it seems to skip some movements, like the old mice with the physical ball you had to clean. I also had one of the first Logitech "Laser" mice which was unable to track consistently on any surface, worse than the optical mice it was supposed to replace.
MikusR 3y ago
Both Microsoft and Logitech mice are crap quality. Unfortunately everybody else is much much worse.
- xoac 3y ago
  This is one of those cheap "everything is bad" takes. I recently had two mice: a logitech g pro which was great, and now a logitech mx vertical which was also great.
  - pi-e-sigma 3y ago
    This is one of those cheap 'everything is fine' takes. I recently also bought a logitech mouse and it's as shitty as shittiest no-name Chinese mice.

oldgradstudent 3y ago

My first mouse was a Microsoft Mouse bought around 1987. It continued working for many years and I've only stopped using it because screen resolutions increased too much for it to handle. https://deskthority.net/wiki/Microsoft_mouse_(3rd_gen) https://deskthority.net/wiki/Microsoft_mouse_(3rd_gen) There is something about the way the buttons and scroll wheels feel that no other manufacturer could match. Not even Logitech.