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I dont know. A famous person with a drug problem. This is famously "good" news. Look at any other celebrity and the in depth coverage of their personal probl

I dont know. A famous person with a drug problem. This is famously "good" news. Look at any other celebrity and the in depth coverage of their personal problems. Why should he be any different?

dns_snek 3y ago
Hold on, there's a world of difference between recreational drug "use" and having a drug "problem". It seems like Musk is engaging in the former while being painted as having a "problem". And I say that as someone who dislikes him a lot for his other antics.
- iancmceachern 3y ago
  Some of those things are legal in certain places and circumstances. Coke isn't really either, ever. Especially for an officer of several public companies, some of which have big government contracts. If the CEO of Boeing or Raytheon was acting this way, would we be acting differently? To be clear, the WSJ article linked here states that people are worried he has a problem. Using before going on stage for work is not recreational, it's a problem.
  - CoffeeOnWrite 3y ago
    I would look at the behaviors and decisions made by the CEOs of Boeing and Raytheon. If they meet my expectations I would excuse the substance use. If it’s a problem, it’s a minor problem, not justifying the attention. Elon has a lot of major problems that this distracts from, and creates the suspicion of a media bias against him, which is harmful.
    - iancmceachern 3y ago
      Would employees of their companies, who must do drug tests, be given the same leniency?
      - CoffeeOnWrite 3y ago
        In my opinion, it should depend on their role. And only look for active intoxication. (Separately, regarding business and political leaders in particular) I’m not in favor of the “blackmail vulnerability” arguments in this discussion. Substance use should not be stigmatized.
        iancmceachern 3y ago
        I agree with your first point, that makes sense.
- CoffeeOnWrite 3y ago
  Yea, I’m a downright Elon-hater. I could not care less if business leaders use drugs responsibly. This is the wrong tree to bark up, an utter distraction when Elon’s actual meaningful behaviors and decisions are so objectionable.
  - iancmceachern 3y ago
    It's good that you don't care, but we are a soceity of laws, and we need to apply them equally. If it's ok for business leaders to use responsibility then we need to make it ok for everyone, and free those that have been encarcerated for such. Many people that work for these companies must submit for drug testing. Where is your sense of right?
    - CoffeeOnWrite 3y ago
      Yes, let’s free the incarcerated, absolutely! In my opinion, drug testing should only required for certain roles (like driving or operating machinery). And it should only look for active intoxication.
      - iancmceachern 3y ago
        Agreed on your second point. Well put.

I dont know. A famous person with a drug problem. This is famously "good" news. Look at any other celebrity and the in depth coverage of their personal problems. Why should he be any different?

dns_snek 3y ago

Hold on, there's a world of difference between recreational drug "use" and having a drug "problem". It seems like Musk is engaging in the former while being painted as having a "problem". And I say that as someone who dislikes him a lot for his other antics.

iancmceachern 3y ago
Some of those things are legal in certain places and circumstances. Coke isn't really either, ever. Especially for an officer of several public companies, some of which have big government contracts. If the CEO of Boeing or Raytheon was acting this way, would we be acting differently? To be clear, the WSJ article linked here states that people are worried he has a problem. Using before going on stage for work is not recreational, it's a problem.
- CoffeeOnWrite 3y ago
  I would look at the behaviors and decisions made by the CEOs of Boeing and Raytheon. If they meet my expectations I would excuse the substance use. If it’s a problem, it’s a minor problem, not justifying the attention. Elon has a lot of major problems that this distracts from, and creates the suspicion of a media bias against him, which is harmful.
  - iancmceachern 3y ago
    Would employees of their companies, who must do drug tests, be given the same leniency?
    - CoffeeOnWrite 3y ago
      In my opinion, it should depend on their role. And only look for active intoxication. (Separately, regarding business and political leaders in particular) I’m not in favor of the “blackmail vulnerability” arguments in this discussion. Substance use should not be stigmatized.
      - iancmceachern 3y ago
        I agree with your first point, that makes sense.
CoffeeOnWrite 3y ago
Yea, I’m a downright Elon-hater. I could not care less if business leaders use drugs responsibly. This is the wrong tree to bark up, an utter distraction when Elon’s actual meaningful behaviors and decisions are so objectionable.
- iancmceachern 3y ago
  It's good that you don't care, but we are a soceity of laws, and we need to apply them equally. If it's ok for business leaders to use responsibility then we need to make it ok for everyone, and free those that have been encarcerated for such. Many people that work for these companies must submit for drug testing. Where is your sense of right?
  - CoffeeOnWrite 3y ago
    Yes, let’s free the incarcerated, absolutely! In my opinion, drug testing should only required for certain roles (like driving or operating machinery). And it should only look for active intoxication.
    - iancmceachern 3y ago
      Agreed on your second point. Well put.