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Elon denied various non-weed drugs before. That itself is a problem. again, ANYONE else doesn’t pass security clearances over this.

by NN88 3y ago

defrost 3y ago
I'm not from the US and I'm largely Elon indifferent, that said this is pretty much a US three letter agency problem, especially the DoD. They've entered in contracts with him, they've had the chance to fully read all that is public about Elon in advance, and now they've got the tiger by the tail. I doubt a third party (Russia?) threatening to tell on Elon to the DoD about his cocaine | LSD | mushroom | et al. habits would do squat as far as blackmail goes, they very probably already know, if not they're kind of incompetent. He's delivering private launch facilities and Elon having loose lips is a greater threat than Elon being threatened with being outed about drugs unless he discloses DoD "need to know" secrets he has access to. Ultimately he has value to DoD and they have bank problem; if you owe $100 to the bank, you have a problem, if you owe one billion to a bank, the bank has a problem He's not ANYONE else. ( again, not a fan, not a devoted Elon hater - this is just the pragmatic assessment )
rockemsockem 3y ago
The US government doesn't give a shit about stuff like this when it comes to high profile enough people. As long as you are useful and not a real threat to national security, then they will do what is required.
- NN88 3y ago
  WRONG. The moment Elon denies doing cocaine, he is then subject to blackmail. Everyone on the board knows he does hard drugs, so now he can be exploited. It’s that simple. If I know you’re lying, I can manipulate you.
  - krapp 3y ago
    It isn't that simple. Elon Musk publicly and falsely accused someone of being a pedophile and skated on it. Donald Trump publicly bragged about being able to sexually assault women, and it got him more votes than he lost. I guarantee you nothing will happen to anyone named on the Epstein list. People at this level of power can't effectively be blackmailed, because social (and most legal) consequences simply don't apply to them. Certainly not over something as banal as drug use. This isn't the 1940s, everyone already assumes that every rich powerful asshole is doing cocaine every week off the naked back of a new kept boy they rented from Thailand with mafia money. No one cares.
  - rockemsockem 3y ago
    I don't think you know how manipulation works. It isn't a light switch you get to flip the second you learn something. I.E it is NOT that simple, lol. It sounds like you have a security clearance and either really like the rules or feel really constricted by them and that's why you're so angry about this.

Elon denied various non-weed drugs before. That itself is a problem. again, ANYONE else doesn’t pass security clearances over this.

by NN88 3y ago

Elon denied various non-weed drugs before. That itself is a problem. again, ANYONE else doesn’t pass security clearances over this.

defrost 3y ago

I'm not from the US and I'm largely Elon indifferent, that said this is pretty much a US three letter agency problem, especially the DoD. They've entered in contracts with him, they've had the chance to fully read all that is public about Elon in advance, and now they've got the tiger by the tail. I doubt a third party (Russia?) threatening to tell on Elon to the DoD about his cocaine | LSD | mushroom | et al. habits would do squat as far as blackmail goes, they very probably already know, if not they're kind of incompetent. He's delivering private launch facilities and Elon having loose lips is a greater threat than Elon being threatened with being outed about drugs unless he discloses DoD "need to know" secrets he has access to. Ultimately he has value to DoD and they have bank problem; if you owe $100 to the bank, you have a problem, if you owe one billion to a bank, the bank has a problem He's not ANYONE else. ( again, not a fan, not a devoted Elon hater - this is just the pragmatic assessment )

rockemsockem 3y ago

The US government doesn't give a shit about stuff like this when it comes to high profile enough people. As long as you are useful and not a real threat to national security, then they will do what is required.

NN88 3y ago
WRONG. The moment Elon denies doing cocaine, he is then subject to blackmail. Everyone on the board knows he does hard drugs, so now he can be exploited. It’s that simple. If I know you’re lying, I can manipulate you.
- krapp 3y ago
  It isn't that simple. Elon Musk publicly and falsely accused someone of being a pedophile and skated on it. Donald Trump publicly bragged about being able to sexually assault women, and it got him more votes than he lost. I guarantee you nothing will happen to anyone named on the Epstein list. People at this level of power can't effectively be blackmailed, because social (and most legal) consequences simply don't apply to them. Certainly not over something as banal as drug use. This isn't the 1940s, everyone already assumes that every rich powerful asshole is doing cocaine every week off the naked back of a new kept boy they rented from Thailand with mafia money. No one cares.
- rockemsockem 3y ago
  I don't think you know how manipulation works. It isn't a light switch you get to flip the second you learn something. I.E it is NOT that simple, lol. It sounds like you have a security clearance and either really like the rules or feel really constricted by them and that's why you're so angry about this.