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Affluence would not equalize _because_ they’re living near each other. Living near each other, though, seems to me to be something that would have to evolve alo
by jrmg 3y ago
Affluence would not equalize _because_ they’re living near each other. Living near each other, though, seems to me to be something that would have to evolve alongside a more equal society.
If we go by your assumption that the squares are richer or happier, it seems obvious to me that if they are biased to only want shapes like them to live near them it’s likely they also don’t want them to associate with them at work. Associating together is surely necessary if the triangles are to better their lot in life?
I suppose you might argue that if squares and triangles are equal in talents, they could eventually form separate but equal societies, even if they did not want to associate. If they’re starting off from different baselines that seems unlikely to me though.
It also seems to me to carry an assumption that not wanting to associate is at best a morally neutral position, which I don’t believe - but I think you may?
To your more specific example: there are so many differences between urban and rural societies that I don’t believe that looking as diversity as the attribute that explains their current states is particularly illuminating, especially if you’re trying to decide which one is ‘better’.
I do believe, though, that historical bias has a hand in explaining why even diverse societies like cities are still so stratified on racial lines (so, _not_ diverse).
- p-e-w 3y ago> Living near each other, though, seems to me to be something that would have to evolve alongside a more equal society. That sounds like you agree that diversity isn't the cause of anything. In other words, actively seeking out diversity itself (which is what the authors of the article are arguing for) is worthless. > It also seems to me to carry an assumption that not wanting to associate is at best a morally neutral position, which I don’t believe - but I think you may? I do indeed believe that. Can you provide an argument for why it is not morally neutral?
- jrmg 3y agoI think I agree with your first point about actively seeking diversity being worthless in the abstract. In a world of biased people, though, it can be a way to act against unfair bias. Biased people tend to lose their bias when they become friends with people from the groups they are biased against. Actively _avoiding_ diversity, though, which it seems you find to be morally neutral, I find to be morally negative. The shape (or in the real world, e.g. race) of an individual is a superficial attribute. It is extremely unfair to judge someone by it.