> His team has 10 people. Two of them can write code for analytics and models. The other 8 "manage projects", whatever that means. Not disregarding your point,

> His team has 10 people. Two of them can write code for analytics and models. The other 8 "manage projects", whatever that means. Not disregarding your point, I think we all agree Boeing sounds like bureaucracy hell, but could it be that the 8 who are "managing projects" are in fact managing contractors or outsourced employees who are writing code? I worked with a large multi-national fashion company, and they had an app development team that consisted of a product manager, scrum master, and senior technical advisor. You could look at them and say that 2/3 being non-technical was a problem, or you could look past that team to the several developers in India who weren't exposed to the rest of the company or clients/collaborators, and who actually got the work done.