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The Soviets are gone but their plants in the west are thriving: In 1984, Bezmenov gave an interview to G. Edward Griffin ... His most chilling point was that t
by the_third_wave 3y ago
The Soviets are gone but their plants in the west are thriving:
In 1984, Bezmenov gave an interview to G. Edward Griffin ... His most chilling point was that there’s a long-term plan put in play by Russia to defeat America through psychological warfare and “demoralization.” It’s a long game that takes decades to achieve but it may already be bearing fruit.
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“What it basically means is: to change the perception of reality of every American to such an extent that despite of the abundance of information no one is able to come to sensible conclusions in the interest of defending themselves, their families, their community, and their country.”
Bezmenov described this process as “a great brainwashing” that has four basic stages. The first stage is called “demoralization” which takes from 15 to 20 years to achieve. According to the former KGB agent, that is the minimum number of years it takes to re-educate one generation of students that is normally exposed to the ideology of its country — in other words, the time it takes to change what the people are thinking.
He used the examples of 1960s hippies coming to positions of power in the 1980s in the government and businesses of America. Bezmenov claimed this generation was already “contaminated” by Marxist-Leninist values. Of course, this claim that many baby boomers are somehow espousing KGB-tainted ideas is hard to believe but Bezmenov’s larger point addressed why people who have been gradually “demoralized” are unable to understand that this has happened to them.
Referring to such people, Bezmenov said:
“They are programmed to think and react to certain stimuli in a certain pattern [alluding to Pavlov]. You can not change their mind even if you expose them to authentic information. Even if you prove that white is white and black is black, you still can not change the basic perception and the logic of behavior.”
Demoralization is a process that is “irreversible.” Bezmenov actually thought (back in 1984) that the process of demoralizing America was already completed. It would take another generation and another couple of decades to get the people to think differently and return to their patriotic American values, claimed the agent.
In what is perhaps a most striking passage in the interview, here’s how Bezmenov described the state of a “demoralized” person:
“As I mentioned before, exposure to true information does not matter anymore,” said Bezmenov. “A person who was demoralized is unable to assess true information. The facts tell nothing to him. Even if I shower him with information, with authentic proof, with documents, with pictures; even if I take him by force to the Soviet Union and show him [a] concentration camp, he will refuse to believe it, until he [receives] a kick in his fan-bottom. When a military boot crashes his balls then he will understand. But not before that. That’s the [tragedy] of the situation of demoralization.”
It’s hard not to see in that the state of many modern Americans. We have become a society of polarized tribes, with some people flat out rejecting facts in favor of narratives and opinions.
Once demoralization is completed, the second stage of ideological brainwashing is “destabilization”. During this two-to-five-year period, asserted Bezmenov, what matters is the targeting of essential structural elements of a nation: economy, foreign relations, and defense systems. Basically, the subverter (Russia) would look to destabilize every one of those areas in the United States, considerably weakening it.
This seems to be more or less where we are even though the subverter (Russia) does not seem to be the one pulling the strings anymore. Who does is a good question, it is quite possible the subversion of academia was so thorough that it has gone rogue and started their own revolution.
The third stage would be “crisis.” It would take only up to six weeks to send a country into crisis, explained Bezmenov. The crisis would bring “a violent change of power, structure, and economy” and will be followed by the last stage, “normalization.” That’s when your country is basically taken over, living under a new ideology and reality.
This will happen to America unless it gets rid of people who will bring it to a crisis, warned Bezmenov. What’s more “if people will fail to grasp the impending danger of that development, nothing ever can help [the] United States,” adding, “You may kiss goodbye to your freedom.”
It bears saying that when he made this statement, he was warning about baby boomers and Democrats of the time.
In another somewhat terrifying excerpt, here’s what Bezmenov had to say about what is really happening in the United States: It may think it is living in peace, but it has been actively at war with Russia, and for some time:
“Most of the American politicians, media, and educational system trains another generation of people who think they are living at the peacetime,” said the former KGB agent. “False. United States is in a state of war: undeclared, total war against the basic principles and foundations of this system.”
Much of what Bezmenov said checks out and many of his predictions have come to pass even though the subversion has outlived the subverter. It is hard not to see the parallels between what he described and the current madness around DEI, BLM, 'gender', 'decolonisation' and other examples of identity politics.
https://bigthink.com/the-present/yuri-bezmenov/ https://bigthink.com/the-present/yuri-bezmenov/
- D13Fd 3y agoThis is conspiracy theory junk.
- the_third_wave 3y agoNo conspiracy needed when the perpetrators are on video to tell you what they have done. Why do you think this is a conspiracy? What would such a conspiracy achieve? Who stands to gain from it? The Soviet Union is gone, the KGB is now the FSB, the Soviet communist party is no longer in charge even though many of its members do still occupy positions of power.
- jemmyw 3y ago> Much of what Bezmenov said checks out and many of his predictions have come to pass Just rationalisation. Society and culture is messy anyway so you could prove a bunch of predictions without them having any meaning. But I would say he was just predicting future trends that were already in motion and then imagining their efforts were moving the needle where in fact they achieved nothing of note.
- the_third_wave 3y agohttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Yuri_Bezmenov#Conspiracy_Theories https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Yuri_Bezmenov#Conspiracy_...?
- the_third_wave 3y agoHere's something more to stoke that 'conspiracy theory junk' fire: Creating a Communist Paradise on Earth | Jack Barsky Jack Barsky (born Albrecht Dittrich, Jack being at first an American alias) is a German-American author, IT specialist and former sleeper agent of the KGB. He spied on the United States from 1978 to 1988, and was exposed after the Cold War. Barsky then became a resource for U.S. counterintelligence agencies, which secured his citizenship. His autobiography, “Deep Undercover,” was published in 2017. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9PIi299JAdk&t=68 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9PIi299JAdk&t=68