And I was expressing that it isn't that shiny new tooling that attracts users, nor is it the "new" stuff. Nobody uses python because of jetbrains, or whatever.

And I was expressing that it isn't that shiny new tooling that attracts users, nor is it the "new" stuff. Nobody uses python because of jetbrains, or whatever. It has nothing to do with IDE support. Jetbrains has support because python is popular, and not the other way around. I was also expressing that Python is an old, almost ancient language, and yet it more used than languages that, by your reasoning, had better "tooling" in the sense that you are using it. Making the point that it has nothing to do with the "age" of the language, the fact that it is perceived as new, or having better tools. Python isn't popular because of its tooling, but despite it. It is popular because it makes it easy to leverage the ecosystem and get things done. It seems that other people understood as much.