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I've been following this story for a bit. I'm traveling to Mexico soon and the last leg is on a 737 MAX 9. I'm looking into contacting Aeromexico to see about c

I've been following this story for a bit. I'm traveling to Mexico soon and the last leg is on a 737 MAX 9. I'm looking into contacting Aeromexico to see about changing flights to a different airplane.

ShadowBanThis01 3y ago
I've been thinking the same thing. Boeing is doubling down on its disgraceful behavior with shit like this: https://www.seattletimes.com/business/boeing-aerospace/boeing-wants-faa-to-exempt-max-7-from-safety-rules-to-get-it-in-the-air/ https://www.seattletimes.com/business/boeing-aerospace/boein...
hn_throwaway_99 3y ago
Is that a good idea? I always feel like the best time to fly a plane or airliner is after they've had some incident that leads them to being under a microscope. That is, all the MAX 9s have been grounded, and I'm guessing they'll all be thoroughly inspected for this issue before they fly again. So if your concern is that you'll hit a repeat of this same issue, that seems like the wrong concern.
- ShadowBanThis01 3y ago
  There's also the engine-nacelles-melting issue.
  - falserum 3y ago
    Boeing has bad month. There was also loose screws (not max though)
  - hn_throwaway_99 3y ago
    When I searched for the engine nacelles issue, that appears to only apply to an earlier version (737 NG) of the 737, not the MAX. Which kinda proves my point - someone saying "I don't want to fly on a 737 MAX" may just get put on another plane that has different issues. I guess if you've completely lost faith in Boeing you can decide not to fly any of their planes, but that's going to make flying at all very difficult. And if you decide to drive instead you'd just be taking a more dangerous mode of transportation.
    - ShadowBanThis01 3y ago
      Actually, it's the new Max 7: https://www.seattletimes.com/business/boeing-aerospace/boeing-wants-faa-to-exempt-max-7-from-safety-rules-to-get-it-in-the-air/ https://www.seattletimes.com/business/boeing-aerospace/boein... It's not clear if older models suffer from the same defect.
      - cco 3y ago
        Any of the newly engined Max models are involved, even the Max 8 and 9. The problem with the de-icing mechanism was only found _after_ the 8 and 9 were certified so they've been allowed to continue flying with the "pilot fix" in place (this is ludicrous btw). The Max 7 is being blocked currently because it hasn't been certified yet.
        ShadowBanThis01 3y ago
        That's what I thought, thanks. As you note, the "solution" is absurd, and insulting and offensive. The older models should be pulled too. WTF.

ShadowBanThis01 3y ago

I've been thinking the same thing. Boeing is doubling down on its disgraceful behavior with shit like this: https://www.seattletimes.com/business/boeing-aerospace/boeing-wants-faa-to-exempt-max-7-from-safety-rules-to-get-it-in-the-air/ https://www.seattletimes.com/business/boeing-aerospace/boein...

hn_throwaway_99 3y ago

Is that a good idea? I always feel like the best time to fly a plane or airliner is after they've had some incident that leads them to being under a microscope. That is, all the MAX 9s have been grounded, and I'm guessing they'll all be thoroughly inspected for this issue before they fly again. So if your concern is that you'll hit a repeat of this same issue, that seems like the wrong concern.

ShadowBanThis01 3y ago
There's also the engine-nacelles-melting issue.
- falserum 3y ago
  Boeing has bad month. There was also loose screws (not max though)
- hn_throwaway_99 3y ago
  When I searched for the engine nacelles issue, that appears to only apply to an earlier version (737 NG) of the 737, not the MAX. Which kinda proves my point - someone saying "I don't want to fly on a 737 MAX" may just get put on another plane that has different issues. I guess if you've completely lost faith in Boeing you can decide not to fly any of their planes, but that's going to make flying at all very difficult. And if you decide to drive instead you'd just be taking a more dangerous mode of transportation.
  - ShadowBanThis01 3y ago
    Actually, it's the new Max 7: https://www.seattletimes.com/business/boeing-aerospace/boeing-wants-faa-to-exempt-max-7-from-safety-rules-to-get-it-in-the-air/ https://www.seattletimes.com/business/boeing-aerospace/boein... It's not clear if older models suffer from the same defect.
    - cco 3y ago
      Any of the newly engined Max models are involved, even the Max 8 and 9. The problem with the de-icing mechanism was only found _after_ the 8 and 9 were certified so they've been allowed to continue flying with the "pilot fix" in place (this is ludicrous btw). The Max 7 is being blocked currently because it hasn't been certified yet.
      - ShadowBanThis01 3y ago
        That's what I thought, thanks. As you note, the "solution" is absurd, and insulting and offensive. The older models should be pulled too. WTF.