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Hm, strange. I haven't looked at the numbers, but I would assume more Androids are sold and in use with GMS than iPhones. But you might be completed right! Als

by pas 3y ago

Hm, strange. I haven't looked at the numbers, but I would assume more Androids are sold and in use with GMS than iPhones. But you might be completed right! Also it's a very interesting point about China and AirTags. How come it's not forbidden by the CCP?

LoganDark 3y ago
> I would assume more Androids are sold and in use with GMS than iPhones. As of 2023, Android has approximately a 70% global market share (iPhone has almost 60% in the US), but we don't know exactly how many of those run GMS. There's a list of supported devices [0], but it'd take forever to sort through it, and we don't know: - how many devices there are not on that list - how many devices have hacked/"pirated" GMS anyway If Google were to pursue something like AirTag, it could probably work okay enough, except: - It'd likely have worse/coarser coverage than Apple AirTags, simply due to the variety of Android phones out there, and the fact that most of them will never be fully updated - It'd likely take a while to introduce because of the need to wait until enough phones are updated for the tags will work properly - It'd likely not have the same quality of user experience, and Google is not particularly known for privacy Re coarser coverage, there are also likely to be huge dead zones where e.g. the dominant phone manufacturer is Huawei, which is hated by Google and no longer allowed to manufacture phones running GMS. Xiaomi doesn't have Google Play, but they still have GMS. [0]: https://storage.googleapis.com/play_public/supported_devices.html https://storage.googleapis.com/play_public/supported_devices... > Also it's a very interesting point about China and AirTags. How come it's not forbidden by the CCP? Probably because it's invisible. Consumers have no visibility or say in how their iPhone tracks nearby AirTags.
- pas 3y ago
  I mean the CCP is stubborn and irrational, but not blind, if millions of iPhones serve as a dragnet data exfiltration platform, how come they don't try to block it? (Or since AirTags are easy to detect they are simply so low-risk?)

by pas 3y ago

LoganDark 3y ago

> I would assume more Androids are sold and in use with GMS than iPhones. As of 2023, Android has approximately a 70% global market share (iPhone has almost 60% in the US), but we don't know exactly how many of those run GMS. There's a list of supported devices [0], but it'd take forever to sort through it, and we don't know: - how many devices there are not on that list - how many devices have hacked/"pirated" GMS anyway If Google were to pursue something like AirTag, it could probably work okay enough, except: - It'd likely have worse/coarser coverage than Apple AirTags, simply due to the variety of Android phones out there, and the fact that most of them will never be fully updated - It'd likely take a while to introduce because of the need to wait until enough phones are updated for the tags will work properly - It'd likely not have the same quality of user experience, and Google is not particularly known for privacy Re coarser coverage, there are also likely to be huge dead zones where e.g. the dominant phone manufacturer is Huawei, which is hated by Google and no longer allowed to manufacture phones running GMS. Xiaomi doesn't have Google Play, but they still have GMS. [0]: https://storage.googleapis.com/play_public/supported_devices.html https://storage.googleapis.com/play_public/supported_devices... > Also it's a very interesting point about China and AirTags. How come it's not forbidden by the CCP? Probably because it's invisible. Consumers have no visibility or say in how their iPhone tracks nearby AirTags.

pas 3y ago
I mean the CCP is stubborn and irrational, but not blind, if millions of iPhones serve as a dragnet data exfiltration platform, how come they don't try to block it? (Or since AirTags are easy to detect they are simply so low-risk?)