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Two days ago before we got on one of these planes I said to my partner “don’t worry, it’s the most scrutinized plane in history”.

physhster 3y ago
Famous last words.
- CamperBob2 3y ago
  It's like sneaking a bomb on board for safety purposes. "I mean, what are the odds that there are TWO bombs on this plane?"
  - whycome 3y ago
    I wish we had an updated remake of Airplane! that uses this line. THere's so much room for good political satire but it seems like it's not being made.
    - hotpotamus 3y ago
      I believe the above is actually a paraphrase of Jim Jefferies’s bit about the difference between Australian and American airport security actually.
      - hadrien01 3y ago
        The sketch in question: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pyqBZBC3RbY https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pyqBZBC3RbY
  - lostlogin 3y ago
    ‘Satisfaction of search’ is very much a thing. In my field (I’m a radiographer), finding an abnormally is a classic reason to miss another one nearby. To quote a cardiologist I worked with, ‘keep scanning, you can have ticks and lice’. https://radiopaedia.org/articles/satisfaction-of-search-error https://radiopaedia.org/articles/satisfaction-of-search-erro...
    - eternityforest 3y ago
      I notice this a lot in everyday life, with things like getting a text while heading out the door, answering it, then forgetting there were other tasks and leaving sans keys and wallet
    - letitbeirie 3y ago
      This phenomenon was really useful for sneaking booze into football games as undergrads. Two airplane bottles in your pocket, belt loop, etc. - somewhere obvious but not too obvious - can absolutely blind a ticket taker to the 6-8 you have taped to the back of your calves.
  - JKCalhoun 3y ago
    Guessing you're quoting Laurie Anderson.
ironmagma 3y ago
Yeah it's really not. Age is the only thing that will do that.
- letitbeirie 3y ago
  It's hard to know how much time has to elapse before all the problems have been teased out though. Anyone who thought the DC-10 was in the clear after its cargo door problems were fixed was in for a nasty surprise a few years later when an engine fell off of one at O'Hare, but if the industry had written it off after that incident they'd have missed out on 35 years of an otherwise reliable plane.
  - ironmagma 3y ago
    The thing I see missing is that it’s totally normal and even justified to not want to fly on one of these planes at this point. Regardless of whether there is some period of time on the order of years after which all the bugs will be worked out, in the meantime it makes absolutely no sense to take a gamble flying on one of these, but many, especially those within aviation, insist otherwise.
dylan604 3y ago
When all of that scrutiny stops finding issues, I'll not worry about it. Sadly, every time they look, they find new issues.
jncfhnb 3y ago
The problem wasn’t finding problems, it was acknowledging them
topspin 3y ago
There is a reason they are the most scrutinized.
epolanski 3y ago
> don’t worry, it’s the most scrutinized plane in history That's a bad thing, not a positive one that it needs so much scrutiny.

physhster 3y ago

Famous last words.

CamperBob2 3y ago
It's like sneaking a bomb on board for safety purposes. "I mean, what are the odds that there are TWO bombs on this plane?"
- whycome 3y ago
  I wish we had an updated remake of Airplane! that uses this line. THere's so much room for good political satire but it seems like it's not being made.
  - hotpotamus 3y ago
    I believe the above is actually a paraphrase of Jim Jefferies’s bit about the difference between Australian and American airport security actually.
    - hadrien01 3y ago
      The sketch in question: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pyqBZBC3RbY https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pyqBZBC3RbY
- lostlogin 3y ago
  ‘Satisfaction of search’ is very much a thing. In my field (I’m a radiographer), finding an abnormally is a classic reason to miss another one nearby. To quote a cardiologist I worked with, ‘keep scanning, you can have ticks and lice’. https://radiopaedia.org/articles/satisfaction-of-search-error https://radiopaedia.org/articles/satisfaction-of-search-erro...
  - eternityforest 3y ago
    I notice this a lot in everyday life, with things like getting a text while heading out the door, answering it, then forgetting there were other tasks and leaving sans keys and wallet
  - letitbeirie 3y ago
    This phenomenon was really useful for sneaking booze into football games as undergrads. Two airplane bottles in your pocket, belt loop, etc. - somewhere obvious but not too obvious - can absolutely blind a ticket taker to the 6-8 you have taped to the back of your calves.
- JKCalhoun 3y ago
  Guessing you're quoting Laurie Anderson.

ironmagma 3y ago

Yeah it's really not. Age is the only thing that will do that.

letitbeirie 3y ago
It's hard to know how much time has to elapse before all the problems have been teased out though. Anyone who thought the DC-10 was in the clear after its cargo door problems were fixed was in for a nasty surprise a few years later when an engine fell off of one at O'Hare, but if the industry had written it off after that incident they'd have missed out on 35 years of an otherwise reliable plane.
- ironmagma 3y ago
  The thing I see missing is that it’s totally normal and even justified to not want to fly on one of these planes at this point. Regardless of whether there is some period of time on the order of years after which all the bugs will be worked out, in the meantime it makes absolutely no sense to take a gamble flying on one of these, but many, especially those within aviation, insist otherwise.

dylan604 3y ago

When all of that scrutiny stops finding issues, I'll not worry about it. Sadly, every time they look, they find new issues.

jncfhnb 3y ago

The problem wasn’t finding problems, it was acknowledging them

topspin 3y ago

There is a reason they are the most scrutinized.

epolanski 3y ago

> don’t worry, it’s the most scrutinized plane in history That's a bad thing, not a positive one that it needs so much scrutiny.