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Honestly, I'm so happy with TextMate v1 already that I don't really care how long TextMate v2.0 takes to get out.

by hbien 18y ago

tdavis 18y ago
You wouldn't be saying that if you did a lot of editing via network shares... TM is awesome; I used it for years. However, it's quite ridiculous that at least as far back as 2006 folks were being led to believe TM 2 was "coming soon." At least the developer has now stated it'll be released "god knows when," but for commercial software I'm not sure if that's any better.
- ionfish 18y ago
  I suspect that people were being led to believe in 2006 that it was "coming soon" because Allan Odgaard really did believe at that point that it was coming soon.
  - tdavis 18y ago
    I wasn't implying he was being dishonest. There have been approximately 1 million cases of me saying and believing that feature X or project Y would be done "this week" when it turned out to be more like "this month" or "next month". When you're off by three years at least, though, it's cause for reflection. At this point I've basically given up trying to provide accurate ship estimates and I just say "It'll be done when it's done." The main differences between my work and TM are: - Many people rely on TM for their day-to-day productivity. - There are a (small) number of pretty nasty bugs / shortcomings that are essentially non-starters at this point if you encounter them. - It's much harder to become highly proficient with an editor than a web app, making it more difficult to switch on a whim. - TM is commercial software which assumes a certain level of continued evolution and support, unless otherwise noted up front. Again, I think TM is an awesome editor and is more than capable for the majority of use cases. I just also happen to believe an update (okay, overhaul) is long over due.
petercooper 18y ago
Agreed. Despite its age, TextMate is still a cutting edge text editor, primarily because almost no-one has tried to innovate in the space lately (Coda excepted).

Honestly, I'm so happy with TextMate v1 already that I don't really care how long TextMate v2.0 takes to get out.

by hbien 18y ago

Honestly, I'm so happy with TextMate v1 already that I don't really care how long TextMate v2.0 takes to get out.

You wouldn't be saying that if you did a lot of editing via network shares... TM is awesome; I used it for years. However, it's quite ridiculous that at least as far back as 2006 folks were being led to believe TM 2 was "coming soon." At least the developer has now stated it'll be released "god knows when," but for commercial software I'm not sure if that's any better.

ionfish 18y ago
I suspect that people were being led to believe in 2006 that it was "coming soon" because Allan Odgaard really did believe at that point that it was coming soon.
- tdavis 18y ago
  I wasn't implying he was being dishonest. There have been approximately 1 million cases of me saying and believing that feature X or project Y would be done "this week" when it turned out to be more like "this month" or "next month". When you're off by three years at least, though, it's cause for reflection. At this point I've basically given up trying to provide accurate ship estimates and I just say "It'll be done when it's done." The main differences between my work and TM are: - Many people rely on TM for their day-to-day productivity. - There are a (small) number of pretty nasty bugs / shortcomings that are essentially non-starters at this point if you encounter them. - It's much harder to become highly proficient with an editor than a web app, making it more difficult to switch on a whim. - TM is commercial software which assumes a certain level of continued evolution and support, unless otherwise noted up front. Again, I think TM is an awesome editor and is more than capable for the majority of use cases. I just also happen to believe an update (okay, overhaul) is long over due.

petercooper 18y ago

Agreed. Despite its age, TextMate is still a cutting edge text editor, primarily because almost no-one has tried to innovate in the space lately (Coda excepted).