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I’d be willing to bet all planes built in the last year or so will be grounded immediately. As for others, possibly if they determine the issue is long standing

I’d be willing to bet all planes built in the last year or so will be grounded immediately. As for others, possibly if they determine the issue is long standing and we’ve just been lucky.

inferiorhuman 3y ago
Alaska just grounded all their MAX-9s. http://web.archive.org/web/20240106075153/https://news.alaskaair.com/alaska-airlines/operations/as-1282/ http://web.archive.org/web/20240106075153/https://news.alask...
- stouset 3y ago
  Because it makes sense to double check your maintenance when you just experienced an issue overwhelmingly likely to be related to maintenance. These same exact exit plugs have been in service without issue since at least 2007. > Each aircraft will be returned to service only after completion of full maintenance and safety inspections. We anticipate all inspections will be completed in the next few days.
  - inferiorhuman 3y ago
    > you just experienced an issue overwhelmingly likely to be related to maintenance What maintenance? The plane was barely two months old and the part that failed was meant to be something installed permanently, not an emergency exit door that would probably see regular inspections. It's probably "just" sloppy assembly from Boeing/Spirit, which, yes, merit a grounding and inspection.
    - stouset 3y ago
      > What maintenance? The plane was barely two months old A plane is not a car. They don’t go in once a year to tighten some bolts and replace your oil filter. You have no idea how much is taken apart and reassembled on a regular basis.
      - inferiorhuman 3y ago
        A modern 737 has A / P1 checks every 500 hours. The plane in question has completed a total of 145 flights so it's quite possible it hadn't even reached the 500 hour threshold yet. While emergency equipment like slides and doors are typically inspected with an "A" check, this wasn't an emergency door that failed. What failed was a permanently installed panel. To inspect it you'd have to pull off interior panels, something that doesn't typically happen on a 737 until a C check (roughly every couple of years or 5,000 hours). So yeah. What maintenance on a nearly brand new plane would require pulling the interior apart and disturbing the emergency exit plug? This wasn't a maintenance issue. Edit: And, no, this plane was never at the Oklahoma City MRO. https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/n704al#3374196f https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/n704al#3374196f
stouset 3y ago
I accept your bet.
dh2022 3y ago
Anyone betting some put options on Monday? I am thinking about doing this…
- charles_f 3y ago
  I was thinking of buying some Airbus stocks

I’d be willing to bet all planes built in the last year or so will be grounded immediately. As for others, possibly if they determine the issue is long standing and we’ve just been lucky.

inferiorhuman 3y ago

Alaska just grounded all their MAX-9s. http://web.archive.org/web/20240106075153/https://news.alaskaair.com/alaska-airlines/operations/as-1282/ http://web.archive.org/web/20240106075153/https://news.alask...

stouset 3y ago
Because it makes sense to double check your maintenance when you just experienced an issue overwhelmingly likely to be related to maintenance. These same exact exit plugs have been in service without issue since at least 2007. > Each aircraft will be returned to service only after completion of full maintenance and safety inspections. We anticipate all inspections will be completed in the next few days.
- inferiorhuman 3y ago
  > you just experienced an issue overwhelmingly likely to be related to maintenance What maintenance? The plane was barely two months old and the part that failed was meant to be something installed permanently, not an emergency exit door that would probably see regular inspections. It's probably "just" sloppy assembly from Boeing/Spirit, which, yes, merit a grounding and inspection.
  - stouset 3y ago
    > What maintenance? The plane was barely two months old A plane is not a car. They don’t go in once a year to tighten some bolts and replace your oil filter. You have no idea how much is taken apart and reassembled on a regular basis.
    - inferiorhuman 3y ago
      A modern 737 has A / P1 checks every 500 hours. The plane in question has completed a total of 145 flights so it's quite possible it hadn't even reached the 500 hour threshold yet. While emergency equipment like slides and doors are typically inspected with an "A" check, this wasn't an emergency door that failed. What failed was a permanently installed panel. To inspect it you'd have to pull off interior panels, something that doesn't typically happen on a 737 until a C check (roughly every couple of years or 5,000 hours). So yeah. What maintenance on a nearly brand new plane would require pulling the interior apart and disturbing the emergency exit plug? This wasn't a maintenance issue. Edit: And, no, this plane was never at the Oklahoma City MRO. https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/n704al#3374196f https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/n704al#3374196f

stouset 3y ago

I accept your bet.

dh2022 3y ago

Anyone betting some put options on Monday? I am thinking about doing this…

charles_f 3y ago
I was thinking of buying some Airbus stocks