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> I prefer to look at this not as woo-woo, or belief, but rather logical deduction based on sound premises. Are you saying that belief is woo-woo? Curious to u
by aliasxneo 3y ago
> I prefer to look at this not as woo-woo, or belief, but rather logical deduction based on sound premises.
Are you saying that belief is woo-woo? Curious to understand how you're relating the two.
- madaxe_again 3y agoYes. Belief is grounded in nothing - hence it is belief. One could believe in moon Nazis, or Bigfoot, or god - without a shred of evidence for any of them. Knowledge is based upon rationale and testable hypotheses.
- aliasxneo 3y agoMaybe this is just semantics, but the statement, "I believe my wife loves me," would necessarily be grounded in nothing? Or is that not belief?
- madaxe_again 3y agoThat’s not belief. Either your wife loves you (good for you) or she does not (hooray for me). She’ll let you know, either way, so there’s no need for belief here.
- aliasxneo 3y agoInteresting way to avoid the question. I guess we'll just have to disagree :)
- mensetmanusman 3y agoBelief that you exist, belief that free will exists, belief that others have consciousness, belief in human rights.
- madaxe_again 3y agoI think, therefore I am. Free will is entirely debatable. In the same vein, the consciousness of others is also not certain, but I err on the side of caution. I don’t “believe” in human rights, however they probably create a better living environment for all, therefore I would say they are a good thing.
- mensetmanusman 3y agoCaution would assume others don't have free will.
- CooCooCaCha 3y agoFree will is an illusion
- autio 3y agoA bit of thinking through what freedom is and what will is will show the claim that free will is an illusion to be an illusion.
- CooCooCaCha 3y agoNo. You are made of physics. Your brain will act according to physics.
- mensetmanusman 3y agoIt is for some, but not all. Also, for whom is it an illusion? ;)
- CooCooCaCha 3y agoEverybody's brains act according to the laws of physics. The feeling that you have a choice is an illusion.
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