oh, you think you've found a contradiction. Fun. I never said they were "innovating." And it's funny how you all concentrate on USB and avoid AppleTalk. Or the

oh, you think you've found a contradiction. Fun. I never said they were "innovating." And it's funny how you all concentrate on USB and avoid AppleTalk. Or the Newton, which came about because Sculley stabbed their own alumni in the back. Or the "apple online network" (early 90's) which I can't even find the name of now. Or, for that matter, FireWire, which found almost no lasting traction in the Windows world. And of course you all decline to talk about their failure to make any contribution to the IETF. Or threatening to sue Microsoft over Windows.