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First, holy crap! Second, #3 is always a red flag for me. It is sometimes code for "we can do this in the lab but we have no idea how one would manufacture it.

First, holy crap! Second, #3 is always a red flag for me. It is sometimes code for "we can do this in the lab but we have no idea how one would manufacture it." A similar analogy is "we've got this great idea for a program you can license but no one here knows how to actually code it up." Third, the impact of this going mainstream would be hard to underestimate. All those people working on transparent displays like they do in sci-fi movies? Yup they could do that. A video conference system with solid eye contact (mentioned in a couple of places) sure you could do that too. A mirror that could show you wearing different clothes? Yup I could see how that would be coded. That #3 though. That is what tempers my enthusiasm. Did I miss any announcement that they had a display at CES? (or was it just an announcement) If the former I would seriously consider flying over to Vegas to check this out.

makeitdouble 3y ago
> Second, #3 is always a red flag for me. Does Zeiss manufacture any public facing camera currently ? All their general public facing projects are collaborations with Sony or Vivo or other makers, and I think they only manufacture lenses, so nothing with a high quality chip in it. It's probably another story on the medical side, but this doesn't fit a highly specialized, peofessional only niche with a PC doing the processor on the side.
dontupvoteme 3y ago
If it was anyone but Zeiss I'd call it a red flag too, but they're basically Old Gods of Glass.
- ChuckMcM 3y ago
  I don't disagree. One way to know if it can live up to the hype is that it will be the lighthouse feature of the next iPhone which will both not have a notch for the front facing camera, it will do "touch anywhere" touch ID and process all of the screen operating gestures visually rather than capacitively so that you can operate you phone while wearing ski gloves if you want too.
epaga 3y ago
Here is a demo video from someone who was there: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NORPeCcIXRQ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NORPeCcIXRQ (from another hn comment)
- ChuckMcM 3y ago
  Ooh thanks for that! Showing monochrome only. I wonder if three layers of glass would get you color? And fixed focus (not too surprising) but that answers two questions I had initially. As they claim this can also do display (presumably to replace the camera element with a projection element) it would be interesting to see what level of opacity they can achieve in a brightly lit environment.

makeitdouble 3y ago

> Second, #3 is always a red flag for me. Does Zeiss manufacture any public facing camera currently ? All their general public facing projects are collaborations with Sony or Vivo or other makers, and I think they only manufacture lenses, so nothing with a high quality chip in it. It's probably another story on the medical side, but this doesn't fit a highly specialized, peofessional only niche with a PC doing the processor on the side.

dontupvoteme 3y ago

If it was anyone but Zeiss I'd call it a red flag too, but they're basically Old Gods of Glass.

ChuckMcM 3y ago
I don't disagree. One way to know if it can live up to the hype is that it will be the lighthouse feature of the next iPhone which will both not have a notch for the front facing camera, it will do "touch anywhere" touch ID and process all of the screen operating gestures visually rather than capacitively so that you can operate you phone while wearing ski gloves if you want too.

epaga 3y ago

Here is a demo video from someone who was there: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NORPeCcIXRQ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NORPeCcIXRQ (from another hn comment)

ChuckMcM 3y ago
Ooh thanks for that! Showing monochrome only. I wonder if three layers of glass would get you color? And fixed focus (not too surprising) but that answers two questions I had initially. As they claim this can also do display (presumably to replace the camera element with a projection element) it would be interesting to see what level of opacity they can achieve in a brightly lit environment.