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You're really grasping at straws here. They've been an NIH company since the beginning, and now you & few others are desperately touting the one, or one of the

You're really grasping at straws here. They've been an NIH company since the beginning, and now you & few others are desperately touting the one, or one of the few areas where they embraced standards. Assuming they did. As for "In the late 90's/early 00's, who were using technology like that? Designers. " I believe that is just wrong. Mac users might have had an outsized impact, but the mass market always refrained from jumping on things until they were available for Windows.

sbuk 3y ago
> They've been an NIH company since the beginning So who did Woz copy for the Apple I ][ and ///? > and now you & few others are desperately touting the one, or one of the few areas where they embraced standards. Assuming they did. They were one of the first adopters, if not the first. They have been involved in the design of nearly every USB standard since; Micro USB being a notable exception. > I believe that is just wrong. Mac users might have had an outsized impact, but the mass market always refrained from jumping on things until they were available for Windows. Go get a copy of a computer magazine from around 6 months after the iMac G3 was released... The thing is that on one hand, you're claiming that they're not innovative and on the other, suffering from NIH syndrome, so by implication, innovating. Which is it?
- AlbertCory 3y ago
  oh, you think you've found a contradiction. Fun. I never said they were "innovating." And it's funny how you all concentrate on USB and avoid AppleTalk. Or the Newton, which came about because Sculley stabbed their own alumni in the back. Or the "apple online network" (early 90's) which I can't even find the name of now. Or, for that matter, FireWire, which found almost no lasting traction in the Windows world. And of course you all decline to talk about their failure to make any contribution to the IETF. Or threatening to sue Microsoft over Windows.
theshackleford 3y ago
> I believe What you believe is irrelevant, especially when it has no foundation in reality.
- AlbertCory 3y ago
  You could try facts. If that's not too much bother. The Internet was around then. The Wayback Machine was, too.

sbuk 3y ago

> They've been an NIH company since the beginning So who did Woz copy for the Apple I ][ and ///? > and now you & few others are desperately touting the one, or one of the few areas where they embraced standards. Assuming they did. They were one of the first adopters, if not the first. They have been involved in the design of nearly every USB standard since; Micro USB being a notable exception. > I believe that is just wrong. Mac users might have had an outsized impact, but the mass market always refrained from jumping on things until they were available for Windows. Go get a copy of a computer magazine from around 6 months after the iMac G3 was released... The thing is that on one hand, you're claiming that they're not innovative and on the other, suffering from NIH syndrome, so by implication, innovating. Which is it?

AlbertCory 3y ago
oh, you think you've found a contradiction. Fun. I never said they were "innovating." And it's funny how you all concentrate on USB and avoid AppleTalk. Or the Newton, which came about because Sculley stabbed their own alumni in the back. Or the "apple online network" (early 90's) which I can't even find the name of now. Or, for that matter, FireWire, which found almost no lasting traction in the Windows world. And of course you all decline to talk about their failure to make any contribution to the IETF. Or threatening to sue Microsoft over Windows.

theshackleford 3y ago

> I believe What you believe is irrelevant, especially when it has no foundation in reality.

AlbertCory 3y ago
You could try facts. If that's not too much bother. The Internet was around then. The Wayback Machine was, too.