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(In a now-deleted post, the parent commenter requested citations, and also remembered Apple dragging their feet on TCP/IP support. Here's my reply since I'd alr

(In a now-deleted post, the parent commenter requested citations, and also remembered Apple dragging their feet on TCP/IP support. Here's my reply since I'd already written it.) A typical response was John Breeden's in The Washington Post: “The iMac has only USB adapters, no SCSI port…non-USB devices can’t be connected. Offices that have SCSI- or parallel-port printers will find the iMac an unsuitable replacement for older Macs. It’s odd, because Apple was a SCSI pioneer.” It's true that AppleTalk was proprietary, but it was introduced in 1985. It was plug-and-play, amazing for its time, and showed what standards-based networking should aspire to. Apple's MacTCP was the first OS-level, application-independent TCP/IP stack for personal computers, in 1988 — many years before TCP/IP was mainstream. Apple also shipped TCP/IP support by default in 1994, a year before Microsoft.

AlbertCory 3y ago
talk about selective rewriting of history: Wikipedia tells us The rise of TCP/IP during the 1990s led to a reimplementation of most of these types of support on that protocol, and AppleTalk became unsupported as of the release of Mac OS X v10.6 in 2009. > It was plug-and-play, amazing for its time, and showed what standards-based networking should aspire to. I believe the IETF was quite active during that time, particularly in the 90's when I got somewhat involved, and even in the 80's. What role did Apple play in that? It seems to me they could have advanced their "aspirations" more effectively that way.
Jtsummers 3y ago
> In a now-deleted post It's not deleted, it got flag killed. Turn on showdead in your profile and you'll be able to see the comment.
- AlbertCory 3y ago
  I turned on showdead, and still don't see what he's talking about.
  - Jtsummers 3y ago
    Your comment is the flagged dead one. You can see it with or without showdead on. You can tell it is dead by trying to reply to it yourself. CharlesW was the one I was responding to who had thought your comment was deleted when it wasn’t. I was clarifying for them (and others) that the comment had not been deleted. I honestly have no idea why this confuses you.
    - AlbertCory 3y ago
      I honestly have no idea why you feel compelled to be so rude.

AlbertCory 3y ago

talk about selective rewriting of history: Wikipedia tells us The rise of TCP/IP during the 1990s led to a reimplementation of most of these types of support on that protocol, and AppleTalk became unsupported as of the release of Mac OS X v10.6 in 2009. > It was plug-and-play, amazing for its time, and showed what standards-based networking should aspire to. I believe the IETF was quite active during that time, particularly in the 90's when I got somewhat involved, and even in the 80's. What role did Apple play in that? It seems to me they could have advanced their "aspirations" more effectively that way.

Jtsummers 3y ago

> In a now-deleted post It's not deleted, it got flag killed. Turn on showdead in your profile and you'll be able to see the comment.

AlbertCory 3y ago
I turned on showdead, and still don't see what he's talking about.
- Jtsummers 3y ago
  Your comment is the flagged dead one. You can see it with or without showdead on. You can tell it is dead by trying to reply to it yourself. CharlesW was the one I was responding to who had thought your comment was deleted when it wasn’t. I was clarifying for them (and others) that the comment had not been deleted. I honestly have no idea why this confuses you.
  - AlbertCory 3y ago
    I honestly have no idea why you feel compelled to be so rude.