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You here made a list of "American Lobbies" and down another list of "Foreign Lobbies," which is clever but desinginious. He is talking about America's most pow
by CrypticShift 3y ago
You here made a list of "American Lobbies" and down another list of "Foreign Lobbies," which is clever but desinginious.
He is talking about America's most powerful lobby FOR a foreign country. So this list is useless. Also, your second list only includes official foreign agents, while most pro-Israel lobbying is not registered as such (notably AIPAC).
- havelhovel 3y agoI don't think that providing actual lists of top spenders is either "clever" or "disingenuous," but if you have a better way to empirically evaluate the claims being made about lobbying influence please share. > He is talking about America's most powerful lobby FOR a foreign country. I'm only interested in discussing the actual text that received (as of writing) 2.3 million views and is the subject of this thread, not your own revision. > Also, your second list only includes official foreign agents, while most pro-Israel lobbying is not registered as such (notably AIPAC) I was responding to a comment about the "Israeli lobby." Israelis are not Americans, which is why I addressed foreign spending. But since you're insinuating that AIPAC is a channel for foreign influence despite being a US organization with 3 million American members, changing its status wouldn't influence the list I provided, so I don't see the relevance of this argument to the larger question of lobbying power.
- CrypticShift 3y ago[flagged]
- yablak 3y agoCall them Americans. As in "My fellow Americans.".
- tptacek 3y agoNo he wasn't. He said "America's most powerful lobby". Not its most powerful lobby "FOR a foreign country". Words mean things!