4 ms·
One just needs to look at the history of drugs in America to come to that conclusion. People often do crimes they wouldn't do if they weren't hyped up on drugs
by bb88 3y ago
One just needs to look at the history of drugs in America to come to that conclusion. People often do crimes they wouldn't do if they weren't hyped up on drugs -- and that affects people who don't do drugs.
Now the question is how do we police it? Throwing drug users in prison doesn't seem like a good idea anymore. We really want to go after the dealers, the people who get users hooked and strung out.
- sjfjsjdjwvwvc 3y ago[dead]
- pixl97 3y agoSo there are two different things that need to be looked at. First order crimes. For example drinking, then getting in a crash would be a first order crime of alcohol use. A second order crime could be something like stealing money to buy your next beer, or running an illegal bootlegging operation. In deciding how to police the issue, the last thing you want to consider is punishment, and the first you want to consider is harm reduction. Going after dealers just doesn't fucking work. We've been spending billions on it, and in doing so we have a non-stop line of dealers and manufactures making more deadly and addictive concoctions every day. The more you bust the dealers, the more the price goes up, the more stealing occurs by the users, the and more corruption of law enforcement by the dealers paying people off because of the huge sums of money involved happen. As they say "There was a war on drugs, drugs won".
- nojster 3y agoAgreeing on this one. State should sell any kind of addictive substance, which would immediately yield benefits: 1. (Large parts of) Funding of organized crime would dry up and the state would get extra income via tax 2. Addicts know they can get their fix and hence can take up regular work 3. Substances would be cleaner and thus safer for consumption (easing the burden of the health care system) Not saying that there are no downsides to this, but the downsides have to be weighed against the upsides and in my book the upsides outweigh the downsides.
- bb88 3y ago> Going after dealers just doesn't fucking work. I may get downvoted for this, but... I for one believe that drug dealers are still the scum of society using people's own biology for profit. This isn't any different than the Sackler's. Why do you want to normalize drug dealing?
- pixl97 3y agoSo the company that makes Doritos is a bunch of drug dealers? You can hate them as much as you want but you don't solve problems as long as the incentive structure exists for it.
- Log_out_ 3y agoAnd you do that by ruining the market, by offering free drugs, let the cartells go unemployed.
- bombcar 3y agoWe've tried basically everything else, let's try this. We take a thousand square miles of BLM land in the middle of the desert, and turn it into freedrugcity, and ship anyone who wants free drugs there. Probably cheaper in the long run.
- pc86 3y agoAs long as there's a fence I'd be willing to try this.
- yard2010 3y agoWhy shouldn't the state provide free drugs or drugs replacements? This way the state (the society) owns the problem AND the solution, and you don't even need tax payers money since you just erase most of the illegal income sources of the organized crime. The state could also push rehabs, controlling the addiction problem, literally everybody wins, minus the criminals.. Free drugs. Free money. Happier, healthier empathetic society. Or in one word - Netherlands
- wampwampwhat 3y agoI believe that already happens every September in North Nevada...
- nkingsy 3y agoFree as long as you spend 20k on gear and food and tickets and… drugs
- pixl97 3y agoLets put this in the "Things that sound like good ideas in practice but don't actually work in reality. So is this a place are interned to and can't leave easily? Well, great, you've created a drug terrorism ghetto. Is this a place people can freely come and go to? Well, it will likely be "too successful" for a number of the hard anti drug politicians, remember this is supposed to be a failure to show how bad the moral failings of people that even thing about drugs end up in. That and when said politicians kids get caught there they'll have the entire place destroyed. Also doing drugs probably doesn't mean "crime free for all here", so, um, who's policing the place?