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I won't stand for your right to become a meth head or fentanyl addict. Addiction is a dangerous disease and we should protect everyone from falling into that tr

by riscy 3y ago

I won't stand for your right to become a meth head or fentanyl addict. Addiction is a dangerous disease and we should protect everyone from falling into that trap and harming themselves and others around them. Living in a society is by definition not about granting total independence and freedom.

GeoAtreides 3y ago
How about the right to open loot boxes? Play gacha games? Play the lottery? Watch porn 24/7? Jerk off 24/7? Be childless? Be an alcoholic? Play games 24/7? Climb without a safety harness?
- orthoxerox 3y ago
  No, no, no, yes (with reservations) to the rest of them.
  - yard2010 3y ago
    Well the internet is for porn, not gambling. But safety first, then teamwork so
- hotpotamus 3y ago
  The only one of those that I do is be childless, and I have to say I don't really get why that's in with the rest.
  - pixl97 3y ago
    >and I have to say I don't really get why that's in with the rest Because it's another one of those things that "your betters" think they control about your life, and with the attempted rollback of things like abortion rights in many places is very relevant. Also we're seeing news out of asian countries of fertility rates falling below 1 you should really expect the more authoritarian governments to say "Have a kid or have a problem" pretty soon.
    - hotpotamus 3y ago
      The problem with ordering me to have kids is that I'm a man and I can't do that.
      - GeoAtreides 3y ago
        They can't order you to get pregnant, but they can order you to have children.
pixl97 3y ago
At the end of the day you have to accept some level of vice or you create a much larger and much worse vice black market. Having mildly addictive weaker drugs available and cheap helps prevent the development of stronger and more easily smuggalable drugs.
Log_out_ 3y ago
Plenty of meth heads in China they just never make it into the news. Once a whole town became famous for it. You do not trade in your freedom for a drug free stable society. You trade in your freedom for nothing, then get the exact same shit but with a fresh lie to your face that it ain't like this.
logicchains 3y ago
>Addiction is a dangerous disease and we should protect everyone from falling into that trap and harming themselves and others around them. Addiction isn't some disease that can strike randomly, the science shows that people who are already unhappy/unsatisfied/deprived are much more likely to succumb to addiction. Addressing the societal problems behind that would go a long way towards eliminating problematic addiction, and conversely banning all narcotic substances wouldn't stop those people from finding other ways to harm themselves, like alcohol, gambling or overeating to fill the emptiness inside.
- riscy 3y ago
  I'm sorry, but we're never going to fix unhappiness. Nor eliminate addiction entirely. Making it difficult to access the most dangerous, addictive drugs is the only practical method of harm reduction for drug users. I don't see dead people on the sidewalks as a result of their porn addiction.
  - broscillator 3y ago
    "If I don't see it, it's not a problem."
junon 3y ago
Meth and fentanyl are not the only drugs. Most people who "do drugs", especially recreationally, are doing neither of those. Nor heroin, nor crack, nor PCP or whatever other drug is commonly associated with life ending effects.
pengaru 3y ago
> I won't stand for your right to become a meth head or fentanyl addict. Addiction is a dangerous disease and we should protect everyone from falling into that trap and harming themselves and others around them. Purdue Pharma[0] has entered the chat. [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opioid_epidemic_in_the_United_States#Waves_of_the_opioid_epidemic https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opioid_epidemic_in_the_United_...

by riscy 3y ago

GeoAtreides 3y ago

How about the right to open loot boxes? Play gacha games? Play the lottery? Watch porn 24/7? Jerk off 24/7? Be childless? Be an alcoholic? Play games 24/7? Climb without a safety harness?

orthoxerox 3y ago
No, no, no, yes (with reservations) to the rest of them.
- yard2010 3y ago
  Well the internet is for porn, not gambling. But safety first, then teamwork so
hotpotamus 3y ago
The only one of those that I do is be childless, and I have to say I don't really get why that's in with the rest.
- pixl97 3y ago
  >and I have to say I don't really get why that's in with the rest Because it's another one of those things that "your betters" think they control about your life, and with the attempted rollback of things like abortion rights in many places is very relevant. Also we're seeing news out of asian countries of fertility rates falling below 1 you should really expect the more authoritarian governments to say "Have a kid or have a problem" pretty soon.
  - hotpotamus 3y ago
    The problem with ordering me to have kids is that I'm a man and I can't do that.
    - GeoAtreides 3y ago
      They can't order you to get pregnant, but they can order you to have children.

pixl97 3y ago

At the end of the day you have to accept some level of vice or you create a much larger and much worse vice black market. Having mildly addictive weaker drugs available and cheap helps prevent the development of stronger and more easily smuggalable drugs.

Log_out_ 3y ago

Plenty of meth heads in China they just never make it into the news. Once a whole town became famous for it. You do not trade in your freedom for a drug free stable society. You trade in your freedom for nothing, then get the exact same shit but with a fresh lie to your face that it ain't like this.

logicchains 3y ago

>Addiction is a dangerous disease and we should protect everyone from falling into that trap and harming themselves and others around them. Addiction isn't some disease that can strike randomly, the science shows that people who are already unhappy/unsatisfied/deprived are much more likely to succumb to addiction. Addressing the societal problems behind that would go a long way towards eliminating problematic addiction, and conversely banning all narcotic substances wouldn't stop those people from finding other ways to harm themselves, like alcohol, gambling or overeating to fill the emptiness inside.

riscy 3y ago
I'm sorry, but we're never going to fix unhappiness. Nor eliminate addiction entirely. Making it difficult to access the most dangerous, addictive drugs is the only practical method of harm reduction for drug users. I don't see dead people on the sidewalks as a result of their porn addiction.
- broscillator 3y ago
  "If I don't see it, it's not a problem."

junon 3y ago

Meth and fentanyl are not the only drugs. Most people who "do drugs", especially recreationally, are doing neither of those. Nor heroin, nor crack, nor PCP or whatever other drug is commonly associated with life ending effects.

pengaru 3y ago

> I won't stand for your right to become a meth head or fentanyl addict. Addiction is a dangerous disease and we should protect everyone from falling into that trap and harming themselves and others around them. Purdue Pharma[0] has entered the chat. [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opioid_epidemic_in_the_United_States#Waves_of_the_opioid_epidemic https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opioid_epidemic_in_the_United_...