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Not doing drugs leads to a healthier society and better people. However it definitely results in much lower life enjoyment. Getting satisfaction from being prod

Not doing drugs leads to a healthier society and better people. However it definitely results in much lower life enjoyment. Getting satisfaction from being productive is not universal. Me for instance. I’ve worked on and managed hugely important projects and get almost no satisfaction from it being successful. I’m happy and content when I have nothing to do and can peacefully work on my hobbies that may or may not be productive. Nothing compares to having a good time at the rave in ecstasy or gambling and sex high on cocaine. I haven’t done hard drugs in a decade but they do make life enjoyable for people not driven by traditional societal drivers.

arcbyte 3y ago
> Nothing compares to having a good time at the rave in ecstasy or gambling and sex high on cocaine. This attitude is the problem. Drugs are an easy trigger for those experiences and feelings that avoid all the self work humans are meant to do that would give them BETTER and more intense versions of the same feelings without any of the downsides. You don't need drugs to have highs and psychedelic experiences.
- dns_snek 3y ago
  Is it a problem? Why, exactly? Humans are "meant to"? By whom? You should keep in mind that stigmatization and criminalization of drug use is a very recent invention. Recorded psychedelic drug use goes back many thousands of years, if not more.
- lawlessone 3y ago
  >You don't need drugs to have highs and psychedelic experiences If someone is having psychedelic experiences without drugs they'll usually want drugs to stop that..
- huytersd 3y ago
  Eh you’re never going to experience the high like you get from ecstasy. Not from sex, not from achievements, not even the birth of your child. It’s unattainable through the normal course of life. I agree humans would have a better life if they never did drugs but at the same time you are definitely missing out on unique experiences.
- pixl97 3y ago
  >avoid all the self work humans are meant to do Hold up, where did you get this rulebook of what humans were "meant to do"? I just get very concerned about this entire meant to do thing, because I'm pretty sure that almost everything we do in the 21st century would fall off that list. I mean, we're not meant to fly right? Go over 50 miles per hours right out? To strong alcohol? Licking toads? Viewing computer screens?

arcbyte 3y ago

> Nothing compares to having a good time at the rave in ecstasy or gambling and sex high on cocaine. This attitude is the problem. Drugs are an easy trigger for those experiences and feelings that avoid all the self work humans are meant to do that would give them BETTER and more intense versions of the same feelings without any of the downsides. You don't need drugs to have highs and psychedelic experiences.

dns_snek 3y ago
Is it a problem? Why, exactly? Humans are "meant to"? By whom? You should keep in mind that stigmatization and criminalization of drug use is a very recent invention. Recorded psychedelic drug use goes back many thousands of years, if not more.
lawlessone 3y ago
>You don't need drugs to have highs and psychedelic experiences If someone is having psychedelic experiences without drugs they'll usually want drugs to stop that..
huytersd 3y ago
Eh you’re never going to experience the high like you get from ecstasy. Not from sex, not from achievements, not even the birth of your child. It’s unattainable through the normal course of life. I agree humans would have a better life if they never did drugs but at the same time you are definitely missing out on unique experiences.
pixl97 3y ago
>avoid all the self work humans are meant to do Hold up, where did you get this rulebook of what humans were "meant to do"? I just get very concerned about this entire meant to do thing, because I'm pretty sure that almost everything we do in the 21st century would fall off that list. I mean, we're not meant to fly right? Go over 50 miles per hours right out? To strong alcohol? Licking toads? Viewing computer screens?