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As I understand it, Alma is following the stream release, which is slightly upstream and less stable than RHEL. https://linux.slashdot.org/story/23/07/29/02142

by chasil 3y ago

As I understand it, Alma is following the stream release, which is slightly upstream and less stable than RHEL. https://linux.slashdot.org/story/23/07/29/0214234/almalinux-discovers-working-with-red-hat-and-centos-stream-isnt-easy https://linux.slashdot.org/story/23/07/29/0214234/almalinux-... Rocky and SUSE Liberty Linux aim to be bug-for-bug compatible with RHEL, which has become more difficult.

bityard 3y ago
This is the first time I have heard of SUSE Liberty Linux as an alternative to RHEL... when I went searching for information on it, all I could find was the product page and some press releases. It's hard to read between the lines of the marketing speak but it sounds like it's just a suite of paid support options for existing RHEL/CentOS deployments and not a RHEL derivative that one can just download and use. Unless I am missing something?
- freedomben 3y ago
  No it is actually a RHEL derivative, but personally I wouldn't go that direction unless you intend to eventually move to other SUSE stuff. They committed a chunk of budget initially to maintain it, but I'm sure they view it as a stepping stone or bridge SLE.
iseletsk 3y ago
Alma is not following stream. It sues stream sources but selects only the right patches - to be fully binary compatible with RHEL
- chasil 3y ago
  > It sues stream sources Beware the Freudian slip.
heywoodlh 3y ago
> which is slightly upstream and less stable than RHEL As a user who almost exclusively uses rolling release OS-es, is this actually something people care about? CentOS Stream is downstream of Fedora -- and Fedora is a rock solid base. It's not like CentOS Stream is riddled with bugs, broken features, etc.
- orthoxerox 3y ago
  Yes, this is something people running servers want. A lot of enterprisey software is supported only on LTS releases of operating systems.
- josephcsible 3y ago
  If you wanted a distro that was similar to but not exactly the same as RHEL, then Fedora itself would be a way better choice. And if you care that it's exactly the same as RHEL, then CentOS Stream doesn't cut it.
  - dralley 3y ago
    This is absurd. CentOS Stream isn't just "similar", it has ABI compatibility with RHEL, it's waaaaay more stable than Fedora because the most it can be different from RHEL in general terms is the difference between two Y-releases (e.g. 9.Y -> 9.Y+1)
bennyvasquez 3y ago
AlmaLinux matches releases and versions with RHEL. More clarification in this 2-minute video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DNMnajmyLaA https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DNMnajmyLaA
dissident_coder 3y ago
Alma Linux is getting their source packages from Stream but they are using the exact same versions that are in the current Redhat release.

by chasil 3y ago

bityard 3y ago

This is the first time I have heard of SUSE Liberty Linux as an alternative to RHEL... when I went searching for information on it, all I could find was the product page and some press releases. It's hard to read between the lines of the marketing speak but it sounds like it's just a suite of paid support options for existing RHEL/CentOS deployments and not a RHEL derivative that one can just download and use. Unless I am missing something?

freedomben 3y ago
No it is actually a RHEL derivative, but personally I wouldn't go that direction unless you intend to eventually move to other SUSE stuff. They committed a chunk of budget initially to maintain it, but I'm sure they view it as a stepping stone or bridge SLE.

iseletsk 3y ago

Alma is not following stream. It sues stream sources but selects only the right patches - to be fully binary compatible with RHEL

chasil 3y ago
> It sues stream sources Beware the Freudian slip.

heywoodlh 3y ago

> which is slightly upstream and less stable than RHEL As a user who almost exclusively uses rolling release OS-es, is this actually something people care about? CentOS Stream is downstream of Fedora -- and Fedora is a rock solid base. It's not like CentOS Stream is riddled with bugs, broken features, etc.

orthoxerox 3y ago
Yes, this is something people running servers want. A lot of enterprisey software is supported only on LTS releases of operating systems.
josephcsible 3y ago
If you wanted a distro that was similar to but not exactly the same as RHEL, then Fedora itself would be a way better choice. And if you care that it's exactly the same as RHEL, then CentOS Stream doesn't cut it.
- dralley 3y ago
  This is absurd. CentOS Stream isn't just "similar", it has ABI compatibility with RHEL, it's waaaaay more stable than Fedora because the most it can be different from RHEL in general terms is the difference between two Y-releases (e.g. 9.Y -> 9.Y+1)

bennyvasquez 3y ago

AlmaLinux matches releases and versions with RHEL. More clarification in this 2-minute video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DNMnajmyLaA https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DNMnajmyLaA

dissident_coder 3y ago

Alma Linux is getting their source packages from Stream but they are using the exact same versions that are in the current Redhat release.