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The OpenD Programming Language

8 points by brabel 3y ago

brabel 3y ago
Some longterm D community members have decided to fork D. There's not much information yet on the new website, but there are some discussions going on in the GitHub Page Discussions Page which show what their grievances are and why they're doing it: https://github.com/orgs/opendlang/discussions https://github.com/orgs/opendlang/discussions
mindcrime 3y ago
Just out of curiosity... what's the motivation for this fork? And I seriously don't mean that as an attack or insult, just wondering. Especially given that the list of changes appears to be pretty small. Is there some specific "thing" about D that this project means to address? Or is there some grand vision or ideological basis for the new language?
- brabel 3y ago
  It seems people's suggestions were not being heard and so they decided to fork. The author of the fork seems to be quite happy to merge his own rejected contributions to start off: https://github.com/orgs/opendlang/discussions/1 https://github.com/orgs/opendlang/discussions/1 > Then, wanna get the library distribution done too, I have a list of old, rejected or stagnated PRs from upstream I wanna get right in and start testing, and I wanna write a new driver program to simplify tasks for the users - an updater driver, etc. Doesn't seem so "open" when someone just goes on to merge his own changes without any discussion about it.
  - mindcrime 3y ago
    Gotcha. Thanks!
Qem 3y ago
I thought D was already open source these days.
- brabel 3y ago
  The reference compiler, DMD, is open source: https://github.com/dlang/dmd https://github.com/dlang/dmd But they don't accept just any Pull Request or features the community submits, understandably. There's a process called DIP for language improvements: https://github.com/dlang/DIPs/blob/master/DIPs/README.md https://github.com/dlang/DIPs/blob/master/DIPs/README.md However, by some accounts, it's really hard to get anything through. Given D already has so many features, I find that to be a good thing, to be honest, but not everyone agrees, of course.

8 points by brabel 3y ago

Some longterm D community members have decided to fork D. There's not much information yet on the new website, but there are some discussions going on in the GitHub Page Discussions Page which show what their grievances are and why they're doing it: https://github.com/orgs/opendlang/discussions https://github.com/orgs/opendlang/discussions

mindcrime 3y ago

Just out of curiosity... what's the motivation for this fork? And I seriously don't mean that as an attack or insult, just wondering. Especially given that the list of changes appears to be pretty small. Is there some specific "thing" about D that this project means to address? Or is there some grand vision or ideological basis for the new language?

brabel 3y ago
It seems people's suggestions were not being heard and so they decided to fork. The author of the fork seems to be quite happy to merge his own rejected contributions to start off: https://github.com/orgs/opendlang/discussions/1 https://github.com/orgs/opendlang/discussions/1 > Then, wanna get the library distribution done too, I have a list of old, rejected or stagnated PRs from upstream I wanna get right in and start testing, and I wanna write a new driver program to simplify tasks for the users - an updater driver, etc. Doesn't seem so "open" when someone just goes on to merge his own changes without any discussion about it.
- mindcrime 3y ago
  Gotcha. Thanks!

Qem 3y ago

I thought D was already open source these days.

brabel 3y ago
The reference compiler, DMD, is open source: https://github.com/dlang/dmd https://github.com/dlang/dmd But they don't accept just any Pull Request or features the community submits, understandably. There's a process called DIP for language improvements: https://github.com/dlang/DIPs/blob/master/DIPs/README.md https://github.com/dlang/DIPs/blob/master/DIPs/README.md However, by some accounts, it's really hard to get anything through. Given D already has so many features, I find that to be a good thing, to be honest, but not everyone agrees, of course.