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I've been regularly using Windows 11 for most of the time it's been out, which is about two years now. The main problem I have with it is even after two years i

I've been regularly using Windows 11 for most of the time it's been out, which is about two years now. The main problem I have with it is even after two years it still feels beta quality. The number of major regressions in the main system user interface is baffling. I see obvious glitches fairly regularly, dropdown menus getting stuck and not dismissing, icons vanishing but still interacting, explorer windows appearing blank for a moment before their content appears, layout bugs (inputs extending past window edge, text labels overlapping), etc. etc. not to mention a bunch of features that went missing or became harder to access, like explorer context menu options (and others complain about moving the start menu), due to replacing the legacy UI with a completely new one that doesn't yet cover everything the old one did... but they shipped it anyway and even after a couple of years it's not back up to speed. I've been advising others to avoid Windows 11 - stick to Windows 10 until Microsoft sort out this mess.

wombat-man 3y ago
Yeah, it’s mostly fine but a little half baked in spots. Just kind of perplexed why they would rush it out.
- AshleysBrain 3y ago
  Maybe they rushed it out originally, but it's been out for two years now, and I think it's reasonable to expect any rough edges to have been smoothed out over that time!
  - wombat-man 3y ago
    Yeah I agree. Win10 had similar issues to a lesser extent. The settings/preferences were all kind of a mish mash of new style and old style.
  - DaiPlusPlus 3y ago
    Rough-edges in the UI/UX never get fixed between major-releases (or ever, really) because of the risk of breaking third-party software using UI automation techniques to perform some workflow. The XKCD strip is real: https://xkcd.com/1172/ https://xkcd.com/1172/ Speaking as a former MSFTie, my experience is that some orgs (like OSG: Windows) are more conservative with UI/UX changes (between major releases, at least) compared to others (like DevDiv: Visual Studio) and it's motivated by avoiding risk: i.e. "if it ain't broken, don't fix it, even if it is currently uglier than a mid-2000s KDE desktop".
fuzzy2 3y ago
Will Microsoft sort this out though? Looking at the state of modern software in general, I very much doubt it. Ridiculously complex software tends to have ridiculous bugs. (Also, these half-baked UI upgrades have been going since Windows XP, not a single coherent concept since then.)

wombat-man 3y ago

Yeah, it’s mostly fine but a little half baked in spots. Just kind of perplexed why they would rush it out.

AshleysBrain 3y ago
Maybe they rushed it out originally, but it's been out for two years now, and I think it's reasonable to expect any rough edges to have been smoothed out over that time!
- wombat-man 3y ago
  Yeah I agree. Win10 had similar issues to a lesser extent. The settings/preferences were all kind of a mish mash of new style and old style.
- DaiPlusPlus 3y ago
  Rough-edges in the UI/UX never get fixed between major-releases (or ever, really) because of the risk of breaking third-party software using UI automation techniques to perform some workflow. The XKCD strip is real: https://xkcd.com/1172/ https://xkcd.com/1172/ Speaking as a former MSFTie, my experience is that some orgs (like OSG: Windows) are more conservative with UI/UX changes (between major releases, at least) compared to others (like DevDiv: Visual Studio) and it's motivated by avoiding risk: i.e. "if it ain't broken, don't fix it, even if it is currently uglier than a mid-2000s KDE desktop".

fuzzy2 3y ago

Will Microsoft sort this out though? Looking at the state of modern software in general, I very much doubt it. Ridiculously complex software tends to have ridiculous bugs. (Also, these half-baked UI upgrades have been going since Windows XP, not a single coherent concept since then.)