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Take what you can, give nothing back. Apparently.
by skummetmaelk 3y ago
Take what you can, give nothing back. Apparently.
- troupo 3y agoThat has been Disney's motto since forever. The "golden age if Disney" is all public domain works and fairy tales.
- HlessClaudesman 3y agoPublic domain for thee, but not for me.
- willcipriano 3y agoHey come on they have original ideas, talking African animals, talking cars, talking fish, talking toys. Without intellectual property protection they wouldn't of made all these super original ideas.
- alephnerd 3y agoAll that IP and the talent behind it became Disney's after the acquired Pixar from Steve Jobs.
- willcipriano 3y agoOh OK, I was wondering how they came up with so many original ideas but it makes sense now that they had to buy them.
- jMyles 3y agoBahaha... oh man... I'm imagining this comment being read in the voice and cadence of standup comedy.
- dryuppi 3y agoI understand you are ’reworking’ a reductive history of Pixar’s canon meme except for one thing you added: “talking African animals”. Which is a reference to the Lion King, one of the mouse’s 2d classics, which is also one of their most egregious derivative works. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kimba_the_White_Lion https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kimba_the_White_Lion
- ben_w 3y agoThe Lion King is more Hamlet than Kimba, I think. Royal family, brother of king kills king to get throne, queen not happy about this turn of events, the kid is elsewhere, ghost of king tells kid to sort it out, kid returns to royal court and after a fight ends up offing the usurper. But in Hamlet Shakespeare kills everyone; while in The Lion King, Walt disnae.
- jareklupinski 3y agoI enjoyed this comparison https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G5B1mIfQuo4 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G5B1mIfQuo4 more than Kimba or Lion King (longer than both of them too!) lion king 1 1/2 was fantastic tho
- dryuppi 3y agoFair point. I even remember that video releasing and here I am 3 years later spreading misinformation like exactly what it is ranting about. I think the visual/contextual similarities with the original manga/anime run do in fact point more plainly to the reality of the mouses' relationship with their public domain reworks. That is, what they did exactly exemplifies excellent use of the public domain. They did more than just updated reproductions of the original works. They used the public domain as a starting point, an inspiration, but told their own stories; often wildly different from their source, like, where I mention elsewhere, The Little Mermaid. The problem focused on should be that while they benefited from having access to these works in the public domain they have spent time and resources to ensure others are unable to do the same with work they have financial control over that should have long been included in the public domain.
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- jamespo 3y agoI love watching 2 hour animated films with no dialogue personally
- mkl 3y agoAny recommendations?
- lcnPylGDnU4H9OF 3y agoFantasia is 2h 4m according to IMDB. https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0032455/ https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0032455/ 12 more years, I guess.
- tommiegannert 3y agoArguably, the corruption here is not Disney, but the lawmakers agreeing to change the law. If lawmakers cannot handle the pressure from large lobbyists, they should forbid large lobbyists. Etc. Disney should be allowed to protect their interests within the applicable laws.
- olyjohn 3y agoOr maybe people and should have morals and standards beyond "whatever is legal."
- Log_out_ 3y agoVery piracy, but okay for the big guy.
- xhkkffbf 3y agoYou realize that the folks at Disney put in thousands of hours to create their own version of the story. Yeah, they borrowed a bit, but they put in plenty of their own work. But go ahead and pretend that this is the same as the cheap-ass behavior of some stoned pirate who can't bring himself to pay for content and uses Lessig as a justification for his thievery.
- atlas_hugged 3y agoKeep huffing that corporate propaganda.
- johnnyanmac 3y ago>Yeah, they borrowed a bit, but they put in plenty of their own work. And "Steamboat Bill" didn't? I fail to see the difference outside of the fact that Grimm et. Al didn't have a small army OF lawyers to say otherwise.
- xhkkffbf 3y agoI'm not sure your point? I admitted that they borrowed a bit. And then your point is that "Steamboat Bill" borrowed? Okay. I guess. But I'm not denying that the filmmakers and artists grab ideas and plots from the collective idea well. I'm saying that they also put in thousands if not millions of hours of work creating the new version. It's just wrong for the pro piracy crowd to use this as an excuse to justify their theft.
- johnnyanmac 3y ago>It's just wrong for the pro piracy crowd to use this as an excuse to justify their theft. My main point wasn't really about modern pirates. The internet cabal will define however they want to fit their own notions. It was more about artists treated as "thieves" by companies like Disney that themselves have done "copyright infringement" to get themselves off the ground (by the definition they defined over the past century).