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They want the data for AI but not just for their products. They want it as a business asset. It helps boost their valuation and makes them attractive to potenti

They want the data for AI but not just for their products. They want it as a business asset. It helps boost their valuation and makes them attractive to potential acquirers, but they also can sell de-identified data outside the company per their own terms. That just means they don’t sell PII for less than two customers in a data identifiable group. See the terms: > Sentry may use Usage Data and Service Data for analytics and product development (including to train or improve AI Features and generate Outputs). Sentry will not disclose Usage Data or Outputs externally, unless they have been de-identified so that they do not individually identify Customer, its Users or any other person and are aggregated with data across Sentry’s other customers.

the_mitsuhiko 3y ago
> They want the data for AI but not just for their products. They want it as a business asset. That is incorrect, the data is exclusively used to provide services to customers. The blog post is quite specific about the intended use.
- happytiger 3y ago
  That is NOT what their own terms and conditions, which I’m quoting in the comment you are replying to actually says: > Sentry will not disclose Usage Data or Outputs externally, unless they have been de-identified so that they do not individually identify Customer, its Users or any other person and are aggregated with data across Sentry’s other customers. You can write whatever you want in a blog post. It’s the legal terms and what’s in the contract that matters and presumably shows intent. In this case they are clearly planning to show or sell de-identified data as it’s in their terms and conditions explicitly. What is being said in the blog and what the company is giving themselves a license to do are not the same.
  - the_mitsuhiko 3y ago
    We put an update into the blog post that addresses this: https://blog.sentry.io/ai-privacy-and-terms-of-service-updates/ https://blog.sentry.io/ai-privacy-and-terms-of-service-updat...

the_mitsuhiko 3y ago

> They want the data for AI but not just for their products. They want it as a business asset. That is incorrect, the data is exclusively used to provide services to customers. The blog post is quite specific about the intended use.

happytiger 3y ago
That is NOT what their own terms and conditions, which I’m quoting in the comment you are replying to actually says: > Sentry will not disclose Usage Data or Outputs externally, unless they have been de-identified so that they do not individually identify Customer, its Users or any other person and are aggregated with data across Sentry’s other customers. You can write whatever you want in a blog post. It’s the legal terms and what’s in the contract that matters and presumably shows intent. In this case they are clearly planning to show or sell de-identified data as it’s in their terms and conditions explicitly. What is being said in the blog and what the company is giving themselves a license to do are not the same.
- the_mitsuhiko 3y ago
  We put an update into the blog post that addresses this: https://blog.sentry.io/ai-privacy-and-terms-of-service-updates/ https://blog.sentry.io/ai-privacy-and-terms-of-service-updat...