> I don't think ever before we had significant periods of time where we actually get paid to use energy from the grid due to overprovisioning with renewables Y

> I don't think ever before we had significant periods of time where we actually get paid to use energy from the grid due to overprovisioning with renewables Yes, because storage isn't factored in and production is intermittent... A world relying fully on solar panels is also relying fully on batteries, whether it's lithium, hydro or something else, we need to account for that in the price.