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> This setting would default to essential cookies only, Seeing as literally nobody would want any other value for their own account, this hypothetical setting

by sgbeal 3y ago

> This setting would default to essential cookies only, Seeing as literally nobody would want any other value for their own account, this hypothetical setting seems completely unnecessary. The inevitable outcome would be that sites creatively redefine what is "essential" so that they can bypass that setting, taking us right back to where we started.

keepamovin 3y ago
Yeah, probable. Unless that loophole was regulated, which seems doable.
- sgbeal 3y ago
  > Unless that loophole was regulated, Regulation is always jurisdiction-dependent and the world has LOTS of jurisdictions. As we can see today, some of the EU's laws have lead to some US-based sites simply blocking all visitors from the EU[^1]. Further jurisdiction-dependent regulation will lead to yet more fragmentation of the internet. [1]: for example, i was recently blocked from getting a copy of my divorce decree from the St. Louis, Missouri government site. Similarly, my wife (not the one on the divorce decree!) cannot access her US-side mobile phone provider's website from outside the US, so has to have a US-side family member deal with paying that each month.
  - keepamovin 3y ago
    Yeah but I mean this is ridiculous. Jurisdictions for sure but I get these bloody cookie banners on websites from all kinds of countries that are outside the EU and when I’m accessing them from outside the EU so it just makes no sense. obviously regulation plays some role in creating this situation so I think it can ameliorate it too. Crazy situation with your family and access to websites. I mean it’s like you need to spin up a private virtual browser in an Azure location inside the US. Wink wink, oh look, I have one such project just for you: https://GitHub.com/BrowserBox/BrowserBox https://GitHub.com/BrowserBox/BrowserBox :D
    - sgbeal 3y ago
      > obviously regulation plays some role in creating this situation so I think it can ameliorate it too. Funnily enough... the EU commission (the source of the cookie banner woes) has admitted how annoying those banners are and are set to revise the rules: https://www.techspot.com/news/101396-european-union-set-revise-cookie-law-admits-cookie.html https://www.techspot.com/news/101396-european-union-set-revi...
      - rsynnott 3y ago
        That’s a mildly weird framing. They’re set to tighten the rules, which will tend to make them less annoying (they can only ask once, sensible defaults etc). A lot of the current cookie prompts are designed to trick the user into consenting. That will hopefully change.
        keepamovin 3y ago
        Well hopefully it improves it. Heh :)

by sgbeal 3y ago

keepamovin 3y ago

Yeah, probable. Unless that loophole was regulated, which seems doable.

sgbeal 3y ago
> Unless that loophole was regulated, Regulation is always jurisdiction-dependent and the world has LOTS of jurisdictions. As we can see today, some of the EU's laws have lead to some US-based sites simply blocking all visitors from the EU[^1]. Further jurisdiction-dependent regulation will lead to yet more fragmentation of the internet. [1]: for example, i was recently blocked from getting a copy of my divorce decree from the St. Louis, Missouri government site. Similarly, my wife (not the one on the divorce decree!) cannot access her US-side mobile phone provider's website from outside the US, so has to have a US-side family member deal with paying that each month.
- keepamovin 3y ago
  Yeah but I mean this is ridiculous. Jurisdictions for sure but I get these bloody cookie banners on websites from all kinds of countries that are outside the EU and when I’m accessing them from outside the EU so it just makes no sense. obviously regulation plays some role in creating this situation so I think it can ameliorate it too. Crazy situation with your family and access to websites. I mean it’s like you need to spin up a private virtual browser in an Azure location inside the US. Wink wink, oh look, I have one such project just for you: https://GitHub.com/BrowserBox/BrowserBox https://GitHub.com/BrowserBox/BrowserBox :D
  - sgbeal 3y ago
    > obviously regulation plays some role in creating this situation so I think it can ameliorate it too. Funnily enough... the EU commission (the source of the cookie banner woes) has admitted how annoying those banners are and are set to revise the rules: https://www.techspot.com/news/101396-european-union-set-revise-cookie-law-admits-cookie.html https://www.techspot.com/news/101396-european-union-set-revi...
    - rsynnott 3y ago
      That’s a mildly weird framing. They’re set to tighten the rules, which will tend to make them less annoying (they can only ask once, sensible defaults etc). A lot of the current cookie prompts are designed to trick the user into consenting. That will hopefully change.
      - keepamovin 3y ago
        Well hopefully it improves it. Heh :)