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There was a time, when we had both... but somehow android phone manufacturers stopped being inventive and stopped making different phones. https://en.wikipedia

There was a time, when we had both... but somehow android phone manufacturers stopped being inventive and stopped making different phones. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HTC_Desire_Z https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HTC_Desire_Z <- this was an android phone with a keyboard, and far from the only one.

Geezus_42 3y ago
I had the G1, and loved it, but I wanted that phone because it looked so much nicer.
babypuncher 3y ago
I remember these quite well. Their Achilles' heel was durability, a recurring problem with any smartphone design that has moving parts. I think that if people kept buying these in significant enough numbers, manufacturers would still be making them.
- ajsnigrutin 3y ago
  But you're not given a choice at all. Look at sd card slots for example... cheap storage expansion, a standard not that long ago, but at one moment in time, pretty much all the flagship phones lost that feature. It wasn't an option, where you could buy a model without an sd card or one with the slot for $20 more, but the slot was gone, and the only phones with sd card slots were either old and shitty or some chinese noname store brand. Same for the headphone jack and user replacable batteries. If you wanted a fast phone with a good camera, you were stuck with either iphones, google nexus/pixel or samsungs (back then also sonys), and none of them have slots or jack ports anymore.
  - babypuncher 3y ago
    There was an in-between time when both were available, and the market spoke. There are a lot of very vocal niches. I got real excited when Apple put out the iPhone 12 mini, I even bought one. But the rest of the market said no, and now there is no more Mini-sized iPhone. We may be noisy, but our niche is not large enough to sustain the devices we want. As a side note, there are still good Android phones with expandable storage, they just aren't made by Google or Samsung. Sony still makes them.

Geezus_42 3y ago

I had the G1, and loved it, but I wanted that phone because it looked so much nicer.

babypuncher 3y ago

I remember these quite well. Their Achilles' heel was durability, a recurring problem with any smartphone design that has moving parts. I think that if people kept buying these in significant enough numbers, manufacturers would still be making them.

ajsnigrutin 3y ago
But you're not given a choice at all. Look at sd card slots for example... cheap storage expansion, a standard not that long ago, but at one moment in time, pretty much all the flagship phones lost that feature. It wasn't an option, where you could buy a model without an sd card or one with the slot for $20 more, but the slot was gone, and the only phones with sd card slots were either old and shitty or some chinese noname store brand. Same for the headphone jack and user replacable batteries. If you wanted a fast phone with a good camera, you were stuck with either iphones, google nexus/pixel or samsungs (back then also sonys), and none of them have slots or jack ports anymore.
- babypuncher 3y ago
  There was an in-between time when both were available, and the market spoke. There are a lot of very vocal niches. I got real excited when Apple put out the iPhone 12 mini, I even bought one. But the rest of the market said no, and now there is no more Mini-sized iPhone. We may be noisy, but our niche is not large enough to sustain the devices we want. As a side note, there are still good Android phones with expandable storage, they just aren't made by Google or Samsung. Sony still makes them.