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As others have pointed out, the 18 minutes include things like stopping the plane. But I want to focus on where you got your ideas. The placards should be tell
by eesmith 3y ago
As others have pointed out, the 18 minutes include things like stopping the plane.
But I want to focus on where you got your ideas. The placards should be telling you to follow the directions of the crew members, and only if they are not available to assist should you do anything.
Here's the relevant US law, from https://www.law.cornell.edu/cfr/text/14/135.129 https://www.law.cornell.edu/cfr/text/14/135.129
> (d) Each certificate holder shall include on passenger information cards, presented in the language in which briefings and oral commands are given by the crew, at each exit seat affected by this section, information that, in the event of an emergency in which a crewmember is not available to assist, a passenger occupying an exit seat may use if called upon to perform the following functions:
> (1) Locate the emergency exit;
> (2) Recognize the emergency exit opening mechanism;
> (3) Comprehend the instructions for operating the emergency exit;
> (4) Operate the emergency exit;
> (5) Assess whether opening the emergency exit will increase the hazards to which passengers may be exposed;
> (6) Follow oral directions and hand signals given by a crewmember;
> (7) Stow or secure the emergency exit door so that it will not impede use of the exit;
> (8) Assess the condition of an escape slide, activate the slide, and stabilize the slide after deployment to assist others in getting off the slide;
> (9) Pass expeditiously through the emergency exit; and
> (10) Assess, select, and follow a safe path away from the emergency exit.
Notice the phrases like "in which a crewmember is not available to assist" and "Follow oral directions and hand signals given by a crewmember"?
That is not at all telling you to ignore the stewards or pilots, and I think it's very bad advice.
You (as a passenger) have received nowhere near the training as the crew have in how to recognize possible dangers, or to judge when it is appropriate to stay on the plane vs. leave.
If you plane crash lands on an airfield, and you see no smoke, fire or other dangers, why leave the plane? Can you tell if fuel is pooling up near overheated brakes? Probably not. But you know who can? The fire fighters who don't want passengers keeping them from dumping loads of water and foam onto the scene.
It's also risky to evacuate. People hurt themselves going down the slides.
- owenversteeg 3y ago>As others have pointed out, the 18 minutes include things like stopping the plane. This took under a minute. >The placards should be telling you to follow the directions of the crew members, and only if they are not available to assist should you do anything. The placards on almost every aircraft I have flown indicate that in a crash, you should look for smoke, fire, debris or water, and then open the door immediately thereafter. That is because it is good safety practice. You are correct that everywhere in the world you're also instructed to follow crewmember instructions (obviously) but I'm sorry, I'm not going to die because of crew incompetence. Had you followed crewmember instructions you would have likely died with the majority of the passengers in the Sewol disaster, for example, or the majority of the children in the Okawa disaster. I have never needed to disobey a steward's order, but if it is between my life and disobeying a steward I will choose my life every time. >Can you tell if fuel is pooling up near overheated brakes? Probably not. In virtually every crash of this severity the answer to "is there fuel leaking near overheated components" is "yes", which is exactly why it is important to evacuate the aircraft as quickly as possible. >But you know who can? The fire fighters Not if they're not there - yet another example of the gross incompetence displayed by this crash was the slow response by the airport fire services. >It's also risky to evacuate. People hurt themselves going down the slides. It's much riskier to stay inside of a plane that will burn to the ground, which is indeed what happened here.
- marlene123 3y agoYou must be a flight attendant or crew. Good for you your comments are correct