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It's a shift in education for sure, If someone needs to regularly use the full range of the vehicle I'd recommend something else. Personally I've only needed t

It's a shift in education for sure, If someone needs to regularly use the full range of the vehicle I'd recommend something else. Personally I've only needed to fast charge twice over the past 2 years. Those were cases where I had to drive 4 hours a day. Normally I charge with a 110 outlet at home, don't even need 220V.

Sohcahtoa82 3y ago
I typically need to fast charge ~5 times per year. I'm in Portland, and my father-in-law takes us to Oregon Ducks football games in Eugene 3-5 times per season, and it's about a 220 mile round trip. In the early season while it's still warm, I can do that round trip without charging with no problem. But in the later, colder season, running the heat drains the battery more and I have to charge on the way back. We'll also visit my wife's best friend in Seattle once or twice a year. For daily driving...well...I work from home, so I could certainly get away with the 110 outlet. Though when I got my car, I had a commute 30 miles each way. I could have probably still gotten away with a 110, but I got a 220 anyways. I can completely charge overnight, and that's good enough. But like...charging time for road trips is blown way out of proportion. I've driven from Portland to Santa Clara and back. I think people hit Google Maps, it tells them a drive is 10 hours, then they hit ABRP or their Tesla's nav, and it reports 12 hours, and they think "wtf driving an EV is adding 2 hours", but they ignore the fact that the Google Maps estimate doesn't include any stopping. No restrooms, food, or gas. I found that during the entire road trip, only ~20 minutes total was spent actually just standing around waiting for the car to charge.
- _ea1k 3y ago
  I had a guy on a Tesla forum one time that told me that an EV would be totally impractical for him. His reason was because he'd need to stop for so long to charge on a little trip of ~500 miles (maybe a little less) and there might not be chargers. It turned out, he that little trip was along major interstates in California to Disneyland. They were already stopping 3 times for at least 15 minutes each in their gas car. He still didn't want a Tesla. That's fine, of course. Horses for courses. :) I never did figure out why he was on a Tesla owner's forum.
  - sokoloff 3y ago
    Who stops 3 times in a 500 mile trip? We stopped twice each way on a 760 mile trip for the holidays. That seems like a one stop trip to me, ICE or any EV that you'd reasonably road-trip in.

Sohcahtoa82 3y ago

I typically need to fast charge ~5 times per year. I'm in Portland, and my father-in-law takes us to Oregon Ducks football games in Eugene 3-5 times per season, and it's about a 220 mile round trip. In the early season while it's still warm, I can do that round trip without charging with no problem. But in the later, colder season, running the heat drains the battery more and I have to charge on the way back. We'll also visit my wife's best friend in Seattle once or twice a year. For daily driving...well...I work from home, so I could certainly get away with the 110 outlet. Though when I got my car, I had a commute 30 miles each way. I could have probably still gotten away with a 110, but I got a 220 anyways. I can completely charge overnight, and that's good enough. But like...charging time for road trips is blown way out of proportion. I've driven from Portland to Santa Clara and back. I think people hit Google Maps, it tells them a drive is 10 hours, then they hit ABRP or their Tesla's nav, and it reports 12 hours, and they think "wtf driving an EV is adding 2 hours", but they ignore the fact that the Google Maps estimate doesn't include any stopping. No restrooms, food, or gas. I found that during the entire road trip, only ~20 minutes total was spent actually just standing around waiting for the car to charge.

_ea1k 3y ago
I had a guy on a Tesla forum one time that told me that an EV would be totally impractical for him. His reason was because he'd need to stop for so long to charge on a little trip of ~500 miles (maybe a little less) and there might not be chargers. It turned out, he that little trip was along major interstates in California to Disneyland. They were already stopping 3 times for at least 15 minutes each in their gas car. He still didn't want a Tesla. That's fine, of course. Horses for courses. :) I never did figure out why he was on a Tesla owner's forum.
- sokoloff 3y ago
  Who stops 3 times in a 500 mile trip? We stopped twice each way on a 760 mile trip for the holidays. That seems like a one stop trip to me, ICE or any EV that you'd reasonably road-trip in.